My dear friend wrote a blog post that apparently got her some criticism…
Here is a link to her post:
http://weeww.heavenlydaughters.com/2017/09/adoring-idolatry.html?m=1
After reading the post I decided to write this note to my friend and all who are within the reach of my words:
We are all supposed to go to God for ourselves.
Nephi is a great example of this… he didn’t just take his Dad’s word for it. He asked to have the same vision and gain his own understanding.
If a teacher is teaching something you need to know about ask for your own vision of it. If two prophets contradict ask for BOTH visions so you can see your version of what both have seen. Maybe you will find the missing link between them for yourself. Or maybe you will see something more applicable to you.
Regardless, if any of you lack wisdom… ask of GOD…. because God WILL give it to you… eventually.
THIS is the method we are supposed to use, even with the speakers in General Conference. We don’t want to become spiritually lazy OR make men our idols in the place of God. Doing as I outlined above will prevent this grave error.
The coveted oil in your own lamp is that precious connection directly to God through the Holy Ghost. No one, not parent, teacher, bishop, friend, nor prophet, not even Christ Himself can fill your lamp for you. Only You can prepare to meet Christ, the bridegroom for yourself, by developing your ability to commune with God through the veil for yourself. And then, once you have learned, it becomes your privilege if you so choose to guide others to the veil by your example and invitation. Teaching them, just as you were taught, that it is only through their own connection to the divine that can bring them into Christ’s presence. By hearing His voice, for ourselves, he teaches us all that we must do to part the veil and enter into His presence for Eternity.
And yes, these guys ARE like mail men… And this should not be offensive. I have met Christ, and I call all who will to do the same. And I desire and seek no praise or laud for myself, only for my God, and for you who I know have the capacity to obtain the same witness and accompanying blessings for yourselves if you will only exercise the exact same faith as I have, to do the same for yourselves.
As far as ANY prophet is concerned… We are to follow their EXAMPLE. To do as they DO. As they have shown us how. We are to do exactly as they have done… Part the veil and meet Christ and become His witnesses at all times and in all things and in all places.
Their council should not be to command us in all things, for that would make us slothful and unwise servants. Rather their council should be to call us to have faith, repent, be baptized in Christ’s name, receive the gift of the holy ghost, obtain a sure knowledge of our place in the Eternities, and then walk on into the presence of Christ, where HE alone can be our sovereign lord and Master and lead and guide us to all things, and all knowledge and all understanding. Then as we learn all things that we should do to be like Him and the Father, we will rise to become one with Him and the Father/Mother and once again enter their Eternal presence and rejoice with them forever.
We need worship only God. Give gratitude and thanks to those who have led and guided you, of course. But beyond that, your hearts and adoration’s shall turn to God.
So, that’s all I have to say about that… But here are some quotes and “proof” for those who don’t just like opinions of people who are just some nobody… like myself.
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Prophets CAN become idols, and here’s what God does when this happens… When the people get deep into making this mistake…
Idols…
Ezekiel 14:
4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the Lord will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;
5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.
6 ¶ Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.
7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to inquire of him concerning me; I the Lordwill answer him by myself:
8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
10 And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him;
11 That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord God.
Joseph Smith further expounding on these verses…
From the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith:
Section Five 1842-43, p.237
President Joseph Smith read the 14th chapter of Ezekiel–said the Lord had declared by the Prophet, that the people should each one stand for himself, and depend on no man or men in that state of corruption of the Jewish church–that righteous persons could only deliver their own souls–applied it to the present state of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints–said if the people departed from the Lord, they must fall–that they were depending on the Prophet, hence were darkened in their minds, in consequence of neglecting the duties devolving upon themselves, envious towards the innocent, while they afflict the virtuous with their shafts of envy.
As far as I can tell, Kimber is just restating what these two prophets, Ezekiel and Joseph Smith have already said. If you disagree, disagree and take it up with them rather than Kimber.
Love and Light
Mrs. Seeker