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Justice [message #3853] Sat, 13 June 2020 03:17 Go to previous message
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Phillip asked me to start a thread with this exchange from commenting on the book.

Elliaison - The Atonement Book
"If we don’t repent, then God is honor-bound to uphold justice against us. God did not set the requirement of repentance, justice did.

"And now, there was no means to reclaim men from this fallen state, which man had brought upon himself because of his own disobedience;
13 Therefore, according to justice, the plan of redemption could not be brought about, only on conditions of repentance of men in this probationary state, yea, this preparatory state; for except it were for these conditions, mercy could not take effect except it should destroy the work of justice. Now the work of justice could not be destroyed; if so, God would cease to be God." - Alma 42:12-13"

Contemplator - Who is justice? How did justice come into being? If god is the first cause, then god created justice. If god is not the first cause, then god is not what we think. This line of thinking may be an attempt to stay in the legal system version of justice, but it potentially creates real problems for our understanding of god.
 
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