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Helaman 5 - Crying unto the voice [message #1038] Tue, 28 August 2012 21:30 Go to next message
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I am interested in a discussion on how this might work:

41 And Aminadab said unto them: You must repent, and cry unto the voice, even until ye shall have faith in Christ, who was taught unto you by Alma, and Amulek, and Zeezrom; and when ye shall do this, the cloud of darkness shall be removed from overshadowing you.
42 And it came to pass that they all did begin to cry unto the voice of him who had shaken the earth; yea, they did cry even until the cloud of darkness was dispersed.
43 And it came to pass that when they cast their eyes about, and saw that the cloud of darkness was dispersed from overshadowing them, behold, they saw that they were encircled about, yea every soul, by a pillar of fire.
(Helaman 5:4143)
Re: Helaman 5 - Crying unto the voice [message #1040 is a reply to message #1038] Tue, 28 August 2012 23:56 Go to previous message
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Lets consider what Alma taught. If all we can do is have a desire to believe, then we should make room in our lives to act on that desire. Eventually we will see it is a good desire, and that will tell us we should believe. When we believe, we must give room in our life for this belief. When that belief improves our life in some way, we have knowledge that belief is true. This knowledge leads us to faith in other things, which we then likewise obtain a knowledge of.

In this particular instance, they all acted on their desire to believe by crying out. This action must have lifted the terror they had, which led them to believe. They continued to call out, and their belief was rewarded immediately by the cloud lifting. At that moment, they all gained a personal direct knowledge of the power of God and His prophets. Thus they were permitted to see the glorious light surrounding each person.


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"The growl bellows a voice [message #3202 is a reply to message #1038] Wed, 21 May 2014 03:13 Go to previous message
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cerned way:"Who I can not trust, can if the words of Xiao brothers, I still really unexpectedly have what matter can difficultly live him, said that his combat doesn't must also depend to trust us to carry on again,, each other trusts however, this battle can not beat."



"Cow general" thousand men grow tiny tiny one Leng, the facial expression follows to seriously come down and went 1:"The end will understand."



Taking leave thousand men is long, the cow Hao autumn takes surplus of the mountain in 5,000 people and go, the another stratagem doesn't really excel, can if start to make a matter, he don't think that he will be bad of arrive where go to,, the cause of in view of the fact sneak attack, even the torch didn't also take a , as far as possible sends out slight voice, soon before can already see some light of fire.



The reflection on water of wood railing is also clear it is thus clear that, in addition to guard the soldier over there, there is also the soldier whom the return patrols, stopped down, in a brigade patrol after soldier leave, the cow Hao autumn stretches hand did a signal, several bow and arrow hand that take bow and arrow Be a little bit tiny to nod, draw back bow string, a few stuffy hum later on, guard at the railing back of the soldier fall on the ground in succession.



"Like, set out."Take 5,000 people to want a secret to sneak in absolutely than ascend heaven still difficult, the cow Hao autumn makes people after toring down both sides railing picked up bow and arrow and picked up Ran wear of tree branch, then shoot to go toward a tent all of a sudden, a lightly after ringing, what to bring is a burnable blazing flame, the tent originally is the thing of easy Ran, borrow night the breeze of the breeze power, prosperous for a while get up.



The voice of a burst of panic, suddenly the tent lights a fire, made the non-Han nationalities panic the absolute being runs toward the tent to, who don't know to lend breeze as well to certainly will can't emblaze other tents, opportunity to take advantage of this, the cow Hao autumn yelled 1:"Kill"



The front row bow and arrow hand has been already shot arrow and hasn't responded to come over to is already a death and harm one and treat to respond after coming over, many non-Han nationalities have never put on clothing as well, even the weapons didn't take, in returning to the road of tent, what to welcome is a flock of cruelty soldier, who don't also expect,, usually keep silent big Long Chao of color, unexpectedly will compete first make a surprise attack, momentary's pouring many non-Han nationalities still then will kill in the sleeping.



Blood, very hot fire, chase of assassinate, also have already taken out the non-Han nationalities of weapon resist and patrol, dash up.



"Hahn people damning!"The growl bellows a voice, falling on the ground one is continues, after cow Hao autumn chop down enemy who turn over the in front, again specially and westwards the side walked some kind of, immediately lead to the non-Han nationalities whom there patrol, engaged a cake of.



From started a side pouring of kill, arrive the non-Han nationalities picked up the time that the weapon spared no effort holdout, there had been many big Long Chao's soldier pouring in the in the pool of blood, theory rise list soldier fighting strength to speak, the non-Han nationalities are obviously stronger than soldier up many, only this is in the combat in their army camp, unavoidably have some to fold hands bunch feet of, also there are no several people riding a horse and pour to let the cow Hao waits person to drill empty son for autumn and use the tree branch of taking the fire surprised get the horse flee indiscriminately everywhere and crash into the tent of one.



There are no the non-Han nationalities of horse, with food for powder but also bad don't arrive where go to, the body still has some a habit not, the race right away, was in need of Ma Dao really don't go.



"Ha ha ha!Is happy!"Continuously chopped down to turn over non-Han nationa
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