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Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election [message #980 is a reply to message #971]

Fri, 24 August 2012 14:51

Amonhi
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But our understandings are on different places on this.

Well said. It is difficult to understand the the world of the C&Er from the view point of another kingdom. ALL THINGS become new.

Again, this is a discussion that is had in the Firstborn section where it is practice as it is only theory and wonder for other groups.

Alma the Younger experienced the buffetings of Satan when he was harrowed up in his sins.

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Alma 36:12
12 But I was racked with eternal torment, for my soul was harrowed up to the greatest degree and racked with all my sins.

The suffering that we go through is equal to our sins because it is caused by our sins. As we realize how our actions have hurt others, just as Alma expresses above. The suffering we experience is not unrelated to our actions. We don't have to wait until death to do this either. Those who will be twinkled will have suffered prior to death. And the word suffering is very misleading. It isn't about the suffering or the punishment or justice. It is about realizing how your actions have hurt others. On the other hand we will also see how our actions have helped others. Bitter/Sweet experience. Being able to forgive ourselves as we do others will be an important thing.

Many people suffer the buffetings of Satan right now/today. This suffering is a natural result/consequence for our actions. We must eventually overcome this issue by "Living to the highest light you have been given". But don't fall into the trap of trying to avoid punishment. Instead, do good because you are good.

If you are clean today, then you have nothing to suffer. So, stay clean, keep the spirit, and be good. Live by faith and hope and joy.

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