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Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election [message #972 is a reply to message #971] Thu, 23 August 2012 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Denryu is currently offline  Denryu
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Good stuff!

So what I get from that is that there are two groups (if not more) that are turned over to the buffetings of Satan until some point of the first resurrection:

1) Those who have had their C&E made sure that have then committed GRIEVOUS sin.

2) Those who have not received their C&E, but have broken covenants - they still may partake of the first resurrection, but will be "purged" through Satan's torments. (An extended baptism of fire? see my thoughts on the LDSFF if you still hang out there).

Do you have any reason to believe your grandfather had received his C&E, or is it just based on this experience of your grandmother's?

I just had another thought that I want to put down for your comment or anyone else that wants to correct or agree:

There are those who die LIVING a celestial law - members of the Church of the Firstborn, recipients of C&E who do NOT commit grievous sin. These are not subject to the buffetings of Satan at all but enter immediately into "the Lord's rest".

Those who are living a TERRESTRIAL law includes those who received their C&E but then committed "grievous sin" (but NOT shed innocent blood or deny the Holy Ghost) and also church members who have NOT received their C&E but have lived a terrestrial law, and also those who had not the opportunity to receive the fullness of the gospel in mortality who accept it in the next life. All of these, I believe, will suffer the torments of hell between their death and the first resurrection. I do not think the first resurection is a singular event. Possibly it might be occuring throughout the millenium. I believe that if you are purged and then resurected at any time before the end of the millenium, this qualifies for "First resurrection". I have no basis for this other than my own insights and thoughts.

Then of course the 2nd resurection is after the millenium for those that lived a telestial law. Not sure if SOPs will be briefly resurected at this time to be judged of God or not. I believe so, but am not sure.

As always I welcome any correction or other perspectives.

Libertas optimas rarem, nunquam servili sub nexu.
"There is no gift like Liberty, therefore never live under slavery."

[Updated on: Thu, 23 August 2012 15:09]

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