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Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election [message #970 is a reply to message #966]

Thu, 23 August 2012 11:38

Denryu
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Registered: July 2012
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I am not seeing this as you do. That's OK, this has given me something to ponder and consider.

Even if the Lord requires something of us, we still have our agency on whether or not to meet that requirement. Also a sacrifice implies agency also - you have to have a choice or it is no sacrifice.

Being delivered up to the buffetings of Satan - there is no choice available to the recipient - suffering a consequence that at that point there is no alternative and is beyond his or her control.

I love this board, and you, and hope that does not come across as contentious. It's not intended. But our understandings are on different places on this, and I am not qualified and am not claiming superior, inferior, or "equal but different". Smile

I hope we aren't talking past each other - I don't think we are, and hope that together and possible with some guidance from some of the other members that we can both increase our understanding on this.

Although, in truth, what the Lord was requiring or teaching Joseph Smith is not very important to us, compared to understanding what he requires of us. I love expanding my understanding, but I am beginning to learn that vast understanding with little doing is of little worth compared to small understanding but perfect compliance of what we understand.

Libertas optimas rarem, nunquam servili sub nexu.
"There is no gift like Liberty, therefore never live under slavery."

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		Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: JulesGP on Tue, 21 August 2012 13:49
		Re: Lev. 16 - The Day of Atonement By: Denryu on Tue, 21 August 2012 18:35
		Re: Lev. 16 - The Day of Atonement By: Amonhi on Wed, 22 August 2012 10:52
		Re: Lev. 16 - The Day of Atonement By: joheri on Thu, 23 August 2012 03:26
		Re: Lev. 16 - The Day of Atonement By: joheri on Thu, 23 August 2012 04:25
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: JulesGP on Thu, 23 August 2012 08:55
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Denryu on Thu, 23 August 2012 09:48
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: JulesGP on Thu, 23 August 2012 10:11
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Denryu on Thu, 23 August 2012 11:38
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: JulesGP on Thu, 23 August 2012 12:45
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Denryu on Thu, 23 August 2012 13:53
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Amonhi on Fri, 24 August 2012 15:39
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Denryu on Fri, 24 August 2012 19:30
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Dragon on Sat, 25 August 2012 17:52
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Amonhi on Fri, 24 August 2012 14:51
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Dragon on Sun, 26 August 2012 03:42
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: MES5464 on Sun, 26 August 2012 11:48
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: chase on Mon, 01 October 2012 19:02
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: amh on Fri, 12 October 2012 20:50
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Dragon on Sat, 13 October 2012 22:47
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: amh on Mon, 15 October 2012 19:37
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: Denryu on Mon, 10 December 2012 17:03
		Re: Repentance before vs. after Calling and Election By: JulesGP on Mon, 10 December 2012 17:41

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