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Dragon
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Re: Female SoP's,
By way of persuasion, consider the following:
1. The condition to become a SoP is to know Christ, and then turn altogether therefrom and commit the unpardonable sin.
2. Agency is not unique to the male gender, nor is achieving the Calling and Election.
3. To deny the existence of a female SoP is to say their agency is somehow taken away.
I have heard many statements about why there are no DoP's, and some of them have a kernel of truth, surrounded by a big lie. For instance:
Women are better than men because there are no daughters of perdition.
Women don't hold the priesthood so they cannot sin against it, and therefore cannot become a daughter of perdition.
God loves women more than men, so He would never punish them as daughters of perdition.
I expect you've heard others. Each of these is false as a whole statement. I have heard many people say women are more righteous than men, because there will be more women in the Celestial Kingdom, thus requiring polygamy. Perhaps that is true, but I am not sure. As for women and the priesthood, I have recently learned that ALL members of the Church of the Firstborn are High Priests (or Priestesses) after the Holy Order of God. As membership in the Church of the Firstborn is a prerequisite to a fall to outer darkness, the argument that women cannot sin against the priesthood is false. Also, God has a great respect for women, which is why God's wife is not mentioned in most scripture. But to say this could lead to the prevention of Daughter of Perdition is to say God would take away their agency to prevent it.
If there could not be any daughters of perdition, that would also mean no female spirits fell with Lucifer. Gender is eternal and does not start at birth. If 1/3 of men fell, and no women, there would be 3 women for every 2 men on this earth. Statistics do not show this to be the case (even though many singles wards do).
Now, consider the following. Mankind refers to men, women, and children. So does Man, when used in a general sense. Further, unless one is Exalted, gender has little meaning. It is not something we lose, but gender is enhanced in the Celestial Kingdom, through eternal progression. The opposite of that is Outer Darkness, and there gender has little meaning.
- Dragon
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