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JulesGP
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This is what I'm seeing:
• The city is given in Matthew, Mark and John as Bethany
• In Matthew, and Mark, it states they are in Simon the Leper's house. Luke says it was Simon the Phairasee. John doesn't specify, but there is mention that Judas is Simon's son - which would likely be mentioned if it were relevant to that situation, not just a random mention.
• Matthew, Mark and Luke describe an alabaster box (or flask as the TG clarifies), John does not specify what container holds the oil.
• Matthew, Mark and John specify that the oil is costly or precious.
• Mark and John specify that the oil was spikenard.
• Matthew, Mark and John specify disagreement about the waste of the oil. Luke indicates too that there is disagreement of the waste based on the discussion he has with Simon as he questions the Savior.
• Matthew, Mark and John indicate that there are disciples present, and this is implied in Luke as Simon calls the Savior "Master".
• Luke and John both mention that the woman used her hair to wipe his feet.
• Matthew and Mark indicate that the Savior's head was anointed. Luke and John indicate that his feet were anointed. But Luke also quotes the Savior mentioning that Simon did not anoint His head.
• All four accounts show the Savior putting those present in their place for questioning the woman for anointing Him.
One thing I know from the MANY times I've been in courtrooms, is that every witness giving an account of the same story, will tell it very differently, and often leave out important details (that seem relevant to others). At the same time, they will remember things that were poignant to them, but irrelevant to others.
The account of the Savior's crucifixion is a great example of this. It shows four accounts by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John of the same event, but many of the details are left out of the different interpretations, and there are details that also do not match. For example, there was a sign on the cross above the Savior's head for all to read. All four of these apostles were reading the exact same sign, yet every account has a different variation of what exactly it said:
Quote:"This Is Jesus the King of the Jews" (Matthew 27:37)
Quote:"The King of the Jews" (Mark 15:26)
Quote:"This Is the King of the Jews" (Luke 23:38)
Quote:"Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews" (John 19:19)
Only two of the disciples even remembered to write about something as important as the Savior's prayer to the Father:
Quote:"... Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? ... My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
In order to see the clearest picture of what actually happened during events in the scriptures and other historical accounts, we have to look at an amalgamation of the different versions and at times, rely on the "gist" of the story.
So it does not dissuade me from believing that these are the same account of the same woman - and Luke happened to be the only one who noticed or remembered to write about the fact that the woman was offered forgiveness and was cleansed by the Savior. (Just like John was the only one who remembered or thought it important to write the name of the woman spoken of.)
My point is that aside from what the spirit has witnessed to me personally, I'm also seeing the same account given of this woman written from four points of view. If that's not the case, then considering some of the details that cross over and the spider-web of similarities among the four accounts, I'd say the other possibility is that this is three or four different accounts of three or four different women in very similar situations with the Savior, and I've misunderstood what the spirit was telling me.
~Jules
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