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Re: scripture references of experiences of others having their C&E made [message #845 is a reply to message #825] Mon, 06 August 2012 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
JulesGP
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I hope I don't derail this thread but after doing some more studying, I realized more information on the woman I posted about above. First of all though, I wanted to make the point that I believe it isn't up to anyone else to judge this woman's place with the Lord - as the Savior pointed out to the Pharisees. Her heart may be with Him, though her sins may be scarlet..... Also, there are a LOT of details left out of the scriptures (besides the fact that they've been butchered by the Counsel of Nicea, multiple translations, correlation, etc.), and likely there was more involved than this description - that was clearly being used to make a point.

There are a couple of things I wanted to point out briefly - the anointing for example, was more than just a random woman pouring oil on the Savior. It sounds an AWFUL LOT like the Second Anointing performed between a husband and wife, which includes the anointing ordinance performed in preparation for the death of the husband (which the Savior points out is the purpose of what she is doing). But I don't want to write about that too much here and derail the thread. I believe the identity of the woman might help clarify some things - it certainly did for me.

This same situation is written about in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I've included the four accounts below, and underlined some of the things that seemed pertinent to me - and showed that this was apparently Mary of Bethany, and not just a random woman as I said. She was someone close to the Savior - obviously had sinned, but obviously too, a follower and devoted to Him and His Gospel.

In Matthew 26:

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6 ¶Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper,

7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious aointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat.

8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this awaste?

9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.

10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath awrought a good work upon me.

11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it afor my burial.

13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.


In Mark 14:

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3 ¶And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.

4 And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this awaste of the ointment made?

5 For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her.

6 And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me.

7 For ye have the apoor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.

8 She hath done what she could: ashe is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.

9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that ashe hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.


In Luke 7:

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6 ¶And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.

37 And, behold, a awoman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster bbox of ointment,

38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and aanointed them with the ointment.

39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.

40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.

41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred apence, and the other fifty.

42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly aforgave them both. bTell me therefore, which of them will love him most?

43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.

44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.

45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.

46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.

47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are aforgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are aforgiven.

49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that aforgiveth sins also?

50 And he said to the woman, Thy afaith hath saved thee; go in bpeace.


In John 12:

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1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

2 There they made him a supper; and aMartha served: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with him.

3 Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.

4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,

5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?

6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a athief, and had the bbag, and bare what was put therein.

7 Then said Jesus, Let her alone: aagainst the day of my burying hath bshe kept this.

8 For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.


So to me, it's clear that this woman WAS devoted to the Savior and living righteously - despite her past sins and that this is probably another scriptural example of someone receiving their C&E.


~Jules

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