| Re: Sustaining our Saviors Plan in this Life [message #3434 is a reply to message #3432] |
Wed, 08 April 2015 21:41  |
Michael Davis
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Registered: January 2015
Location: Montana
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When Lucifer stated that he could save all God's children, he was most certainly offering a plan without agency. The same agency that Adam fell for, that man might have joy. (2 Nephi) Without Agency there would be very little spiritual growth and no true joy. You can only appreciate how great it is to feel healthy, once you've been sick.
We have to also consider "the kingdom of God is not filthy, and there cannot any unclean thing enter into the kingdom of God" (1 Nephi). Therefore if Lucifer was going to return every soul with a guaranty then we must conclude that man would have to be clean? The only way for that to be possible is if there was no agency? Thus taking with it the ability for us to become unclean?
But Father had a grander plan, that man might be and that we might find joy. He gave us our cake with the ability to eat it to, through our beloved Savior (Jehovah).
I also love your reference to (Hebews 6), it is important to understand what its meaning is, when it speaks of Crucifying our Savior afresh. In fact to understand the Atonement we must understand this verse. I will give you a hint.... It doesn't have to do with the falling away that crucifies are Savior afresh.
Quote:For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Again I would just like to say thank you, for putting your beliefs out there for all to see.....
Your Friend
Michael Davis
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