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Re: Sustaining our Saviors Plan in this Life [message #3432 is a reply to message #3420] Mon, 06 April 2015 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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In short, no. My understanding is that the adversary's plan violated agency.

The longer version. In my reading, the Prophet Joseph thought that the adversary's plan was intended to save those who committed the unpardonable sin (in other words the sons of perdition). This is from reading the King Follett discourse, as well as at least one other address which I do not have a handy reference for. I trust the Prophet on this matter.
I think this sheds new light on just what agency then is. Yes, it is the ability/right to choose our actions (the common definition), but it is also the fact that those choices are consequential, binding, significant, and relevant as well. The choices matter! Thus God said in the council, there will be some who choose to sin against the Holy Ghost and those who do must be cast to outer darkness. The adversary then stated that he could save even them. Was through denying people the chance to commit the unpardonable sin? Or rather was it to take the sting away, to say, it does not matter what you have done. He proposed to save those that have had the heavens open to them, and then turn away, crucify Christ afresh and put Him to an open shame. Such a thought makes a mockery of agency. What good is the ability to choose if the outcome is not dependent on the choice? Same concept as eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die and then it shall be well with us.
 
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