Re: They that are Without the Law [message #340 is a reply to message #337] |
Sat, 07 May 2011 14:21 |
Amonhi
Messages: 237 Registered: June 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV.
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Quote:Does God repent? Yes, if we can agree to define repentance as progression. God is constantly progressing as he helps us and all creation to progress. However I am not in a position to know whether he repents of transgressions. I think we can all agree that he is without sin.
We can see why Dragon continually points out the need for definitions. When 2 people use the same word to mean different things we generally disagree. Here repentance is used to mean progress, change direction or actions. With my definition it mean to have a change in heart regardless of actions.
Under the definition above, a good man can progress, change direction or actions (repent) and yet have not sinned or transgressed, only progressed.
Quote:Now, how could a man repent except he should sin? How could he sin if there was no law? How could there be a law save there was a punishment? - Alma 42:17
Here Alma is saying repentance requires sin. God doesn't sin and so requires no repentance. But God does progress.
One reason we have so many definitions for the same words is because it is the nature of words. We see a list of possible definitions for nearly every word in any dictionary.
Quote:"And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.- Jonah 3:10"
Here we see God repenting of evil.
We must look past the words to the symbols they are pointing at. The meaning, concepts and principles. Does God repent? Yes and no. Do they who are without the law repent? Yes and no. Depending on your definition of repent. But the eternal concepts and principles behind the definitions do not change.
Who are "They that are without law"?
- Children who have not been given the law
- Anyone who has not been given the law
- Anyone who has mastered the principles behind the law thus fulfilling the law
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