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Elejian
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Sheol27 wrote on Mon, 12 August 2013 21:04Does this mean the men get to feel what Christ did in Gethsemane and the women get to deal with child birth?
We know that unpenitent people will suffer as Christ did. "But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I" (D&C 19:17).
"And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him" (Luke 22:43). Who could strengthen the Savior? To me, it would have to be someone at least His equal. This is just speculation and not doctrine, but who could strengthen him with love, tenderness, and compassion more than His Heavenly Mother?
To me, the idea of one Savior for all worlds raises interesting issues. Under this idea:
- Imagine a Gospel Essentials class on another planet a billion years ago: "Our Savior will be born on another planet in a billion years to atone for our sins and save us. You will have already been resurrected and exalted before this Savior will be. He has unlocked the door for resurrection for you, but He has not done so for Himself yet."
- On other creations before ours, Christ would no longer be considered the "firstfruits;" he would be the "lastfruits." "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming" (1 Corinthians 15:20-3).
- And on all the other planets, to appreciate the life of Christ and His Atonement more, wouldn't people need to learn at least a little bit about the history of Earth, its geography, and cultures at the time of Christ? This is not impossible through revelation, but to an investigator on another planet, it could seem more make-believe. Living on Earth, at least the general history, geography, and culture can be somewhat verifiable.
The Savior created the heavens and the earth and all things that in them are (3 Nephi 9:15). But in my opinion, anyone who becomes exalted can make the same claim, so to me, this doesn't rule out the possibility that there can be more than one Savior in the universe.
In my opinion, once people attain exaltation, all things are theirs. Exalted beings are at one with the Spirit of the Gods and have access to all the knowledge, sensations, feelings, experiences, and memories of the eternities. What one God has done, all Gods have done. What one God knows, all Gods know. The record, the knowledge, of what the Gods before us did fully becomes our own knowledge. The creations that happened eons in the past become our creations. We might not have personally, physically been there in our individual exalted state when those creations occurred, but we will have the full memory, knowledge, and power regarding all that happened at that time. When a sparrow falls, we know it. When a sparrow fell a billion years before we were born physically, we will know it. There will have been no beginning to our works. Similarly, there will be no end to our works. Despite our "checkered" past, when we have the fullness of the Spirit, we will be the "same God yesterday, today, and forever."
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Will there be other Saviors for other worlds?
By: JulesGP on Sun, 26 August 2012 20:41
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Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost
By: Dragon on Sun, 26 August 2012 21:04
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Will there be other Saviors for other worlds?
By: JulesGP on Sun, 21 October 2012 12:44
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By: Elejian on Mon, 12 August 2013 23:55
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