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Sheol27
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JulesGP wrote on Mon, 12 August 2013 22:30Sheol27 wrote on Mon, 12 August 2013 22:04It has taken me some time to come to terms with the Father being a Savior before but I believe through personal prayer and study I am finally there. 12 years ago I used to argue against this doctrine so much! I didn't want to believe the Father was a Savior! Because of what the pattern would imply.
Joseph Smith said, "What did Jesus say? (Mark it, Elder Rigdon!) The scriptures inform us that Jesus said, as the Father hath power in himself, even so hath the Son power--to do what? Why, what the Father did. The answer is obvious--in a manner to lay down his body and take it up again. Jesus, what are you going to do? To lay down my life as my Father did, and take it up again."
Who lays down there body and takes it up again? Jesus laid down His body in a sense when He said, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit." It is my opinion that a Savior lays down his body (for a sacrifice for sin) and takes it up again. If the pattern is correct and the Father was a Savior, and Christ is a Savior, then I believe that in another place that I will need to be a Savior to eventually become Perfect like the Father and to become Perfect like the Son was after He was resurrected. I believe this to be a path to godhood.
On another note.... I have not came across anything implying that women would have to be saviors. Does this mean the men get to feel what Christ did in Gethsemane and the women get to deal with child birth? Just curious.....
I love your entire post, and have come to the same conclusions. Regarding this underlined, I've had the same question. I wonder if our sacrifice will be to stand close by - helplessly (as His wife and mother did - and as our Heavenly Mother likely did), and watch as our husband or son goes through what the Savior did - I cannot fathom anything more painful....
A little more about me. I was a very hyper child. Because of it I got beat a lot when I was really young. I was whipped 50 times in a row with a belt once, beat with a metal stove shovel on multiple occasions, had my hair pulled, had finger nails go into my arms to the point they bleed, I had a young men's president put my face to the asphalt and rub it in, etc. but nothing compares in my opinion to emotional pain or abuse. For one to feel alone and not loved, rejected by loved ones, I have never felt worse pain. These are mine and my experiences alone. I do not take away anything from anyone else's experiences.
I feel you. It would be horrific to watch a loved one who is so pure to endure what Jesus did. If that is how it plays out and the women are spared what Christ did but are there to watch, for me it is enough...... It was enough for us here in this world. Thanks for adding your perspective.
I have been blessed to see a small part of Gethsemane and I sometimes weep just thinking about it. I cannot believe the love that He had! Even in those moments of pain He still had love and didn't turn to anger. That is my witness. If I need to go through this to become like Christ and Father I will follow. Someone loved me enough to do it for me. Nothing has changed my life more than learning the love that Christ personally had for me. I feel healed of all the small abuses that I have endured in this life.
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Will there be other Saviors for other worlds?
By: JulesGP on Sun, 26 August 2012 20:41
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