| Re: Gay Marriage - Proposition 8 - Supreme Court Rulling [message #2622 is a reply to message #2587] |
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Amonhi wrote on Sat, 29 June 2013 16:48Quote:"By ruling that supporters of Proposition 8 lacked standing to bring this case to court, the Supreme Court has highlighted troubling questions about how our democratic and judicial system operates," said Church spokesman Michael Otterson. "Many Californians will wonder if there is something fundamentally wrong when their government will not defend or protect a popular vote that reflects the views of a majority of their citizens."
I was talking with a lesbian woman I worked with this week. She pointed out that this type of thinking would mean that the majority could vote for the minorities to loose their rights like the freedom of speech or that the majority could vote in slavery and make some minority group slaves...
I spoke with my younger brother who said that the church will fight for morality any way they can even to the point of enforcing it by law. I said, "Who's morality will they enforce?" He said "God's."
To me, that is scary! That would come down to enforcing their religion on others by law.
Now the church openly teaches that the priesthood is the government of God on the earth and it is prophesied to fill the whole earth like a rolling stone that smashes all the other kingdoms of the world.
I don't think the church would go so far as to enforce their beliefs on others by law like my brother said, but I have to wonder still if the church accomplished its goal and became the government of the world, what would they be like?
I know that right now if the church gained power in the government it would be awful! Right now the members of the church do not know or support the principles of peace which made the city of Enoch great and that Melchizedek lived and taught when he established peace and became known as the prince of peace. Until they do, they are not fit to govern and I cannot support the church in its mission to destroy all the other governments of the earth.
(Also, I don't believe that the church itself is the rock cut without hands. There are too many hands involved in the organization and operation of the church. It was cut by the hands of Joseph Smith and others when the church was reorganized and the Law of Moses was restored. On the other hand, the Church of the Firstborn remains unorganized and yet grows and is increasing in membership. Each individual being organized not by the hand of men, but by the hand of God through the spirit and angels.)
Right now, we are loosing many of our rights and freedoms as citizens of the US, BUT, we have far more rights and freedoms as American citizens than we do as members of the Church of Jesus Christ off latter-day Saints. On the other hand, the Church of the Firstborn maintains and protects the freedoms of its members far beyond that of the American Government.
Finally in my discussion with my brother, I pointed out that I would protect his right to govern his life according to the dictates of his own conscience as long as he was not preventing others from doing the same. I would give my life to protect his freedoms to life according to his desires but that he would try to put me in bondage by enforcing his moral code and one me against my will. That is the bottom line.
Christ gave his life so we could choose to sin. Why should we go back and Choose Satan's plan of forced righteousness when Christ was willing to die so that we could have that choice.
~ Seeker
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