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Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost [message #2619 is a reply to message #895]

Sat, 27 July 2013 06:50

RedMint
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Registered: June 2013
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I just read Mr Waterman's essay on How Corporatism Has Undermined and Subverted The Church of Jesus Christ. The essay brought tears to my eyes and left me feeling sick. However, it does not surprise me. Big money attracts big rats. It always has. We like to believe that our modern church has been kept immune even though it is clear that the ancient churches were not.

Christ said that he would build his church upon the Rock of his gospel. Christ repeatedly defined exactly what that Rock is. Now let me be as clear as I can possibly be as to what the Rock is because this is absolutely critical. The gospel is just ONE thing. The gospel is the gift of the holy ghost. It bears repeating:

The fulness of the gospel of Jesus Chris is the gift of the holy ghost.
The fulness of the gospel of Jesus Chris is the gift of the holy ghost.
The fulness of the gospel of Jesus Chris is the gift of the holy ghost.
The fulness of the gospel of Jesus Chris is the gift of the holy ghost.
The fulness of the gospel of Jesus Chris is the gift of the holy ghost.
The fulness of the gospel of Jesus Chris is the gift of the holy ghost.

The Lord explains in 84:54-59 why everything is turning to sheet. It is because we have treated the gospel lightly rather than as the most important and powerful gift given to mortals.

Now here's my point and the whole of the matter regarding the awfulness of our situation: Christ declared that the church was to be built upon the Rock of [the gift of the holy ghost] which provides us a consistent (not hit or miss), on-demand (like opening your eyes for sight), full volume (not a wispy intuition) access to ALL truth. With this gift activated, we would do the works that Christ did and even greater! That is the test that is given you to know if you have your gift truly activated or you are using a pretend version of the gift.

Here is what must be clarified and underlined: the church is built upon the Rock of the gospel. It is not the other way around!!!! Somehow we have allowed that simple truth to be perv'd into the gospel being built upon the Rock of the Church.
IT IS NOT TRUE!
IT IS NOT TRUE!
IT IS NOT TRUE!

What happens when the gospel (ie. the gift of the holy ghost) is erroneously accepted to be built upon the church? First of all the gifts of the spirit begin disappearing. Then you have officials come 'round claiming the authority to cancel your celestial passport if you are not aligned to the church policy manual because they are employed as the kingdom's gatekeepers. Before you know it there is a turnkey tyranny NSA data center being built in your backyard and you are being told to pay it no attention because all is well in zion!

I am sure that this all sounds off-the-chart apostate to many that will read this. So how do we know for sure if what I have postulated is evil and apostate? How can we know the truth and not be deceived? There has only been one answer EVER given to those questions. The answer is the activation of a portal within each of us. This amazing portal is within each and every one of us. It has always been there just like our heart or spleen or liver. It just needs to be activated. The activation is the gift that the holy ghost gives. The activation is the gift of the holy ghost.

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		Identity of the Holy Ghost By: JulesGP on Sat, 11 August 2012 23:52
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: BringerOfJoy on Sun, 12 August 2012 09:42
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: zephyr on Sun, 12 August 2012 17:23
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Dragon on Wed, 15 August 2012 07:11
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: MES5464 on Sun, 26 August 2012 12:05
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: zephyr on Sun, 26 August 2012 16:03
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Dragon on Sun, 26 August 2012 19:59
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Dragon on Sun, 26 August 2012 23:39
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: JulesGP on Wed, 29 August 2012 21:45
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Dragon on Thu, 30 August 2012 18:38
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: KH on Sun, 07 October 2012 00:47
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Dragon on Mon, 15 October 2012 09:06
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		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Denryu on Fri, 25 January 2013 14:03
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		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Seeker on Wed, 07 August 2013 12:09
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		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: FreddyV on Wed, 06 February 2013 15:50
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		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: JulesGP on Tue, 21 May 2013 21:51
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: RedMint on Wed, 05 June 2013 13:47
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Contemplator on Sat, 08 June 2013 22:58
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: RedMint on Tue, 11 June 2013 10:11
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Contemplator on Wed, 12 June 2013 23:09
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: zone on Thu, 27 June 2013 13:43
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Seeker on Wed, 07 August 2013 14:07
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Elejian on Tue, 18 June 2013 14:27
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: zone on Thu, 27 June 2013 13:37
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Elejian on Thu, 27 June 2013 23:44
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: RedMint on Thu, 11 July 2013 18:36
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		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: RedMint on Fri, 12 July 2013 12:42
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: RedMint on Sat, 27 July 2013 06:50
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Sheol27 on Sun, 28 July 2013 11:51
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Elejian on Sun, 11 August 2013 00:48
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: RedMint on Sun, 11 August 2013 16:18
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		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: JulesGP on Sun, 11 August 2013 23:33
		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: Sheol27 on Mon, 12 August 2013 12:14
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		Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost By: zone on Thu, 22 August 2013 11:00
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