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JulesGP
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Amonhi wrote on Sat, 29 June 2013 16:48
Thanks for letting me vent...
God bless,
Amonhi
Amonhi! This is great. I've done a complete 180 in my thinking about issues like these over the past couple of years. I'll skip discussing the way I used to feel and behave, and express my thoughts and feelings now.
I did not realize that the church was pushing for financial support from the members in California.....  . Wow.
I have a little sister who is homosexual, and I love her, and I disagree with her lifestyle. But that's OK - she and I are in much different spheres of understanding about ALL things, and she disagrees with my lifestyle too. But then that goes for everyone else I know.... How many of us are on exactly the same plain of progression? If more of us looked at each other with less condemnation and more understanding that we are all progressing at our own rate with much different circumstances, what a peaceful world we would have. I was just thinking of this scripture that you alluded to Amonhi in discussing the Universal Law of Application:
Quote:Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
I too believe the government has no business legislating personal relationships - among other things. And frankly, I think the church has no business doing more than expressing that homosexuality is a weakness to overcome if we choose to be part of the highest levels of godhood in the eternities - like any other. It may not be exactly what Joseph Smith intended, but it reminds me of this:
Quote:"I never thought it was right to call up a man and try him because he erred in doctrine, it looks too much like methodism and not like Latter day Saintism. Methodists have creeds which a man must believe or be kicked out of their church. I want the liberty to believe as I please, it feels so good not to be trammeled. It doesn't prove that a man is not a good man, because he errs in doctrine."--Joseph Smith
The point is, that we do not need "thought police" or micromanagement from the church, any more than we need it from the government. That (as Amonhi pointed out), was Satan's plan. CHRIST's plan, however, was all about LOVE. And that is what we should extend to others - regardless of their "sins", and regardless of whether they are public, or private. When we are told to be our brother's keeper, it does NOT mean this kind of micromanagement of their personal life and progression. It means we will BE their brother (or sister), and extend the same pure love of Christ and charity toward all, without judgment.
Regarding the rights of the minority - this applies to me is SO many ways! I certainly would not want to be forced to conform to the views, methods, restrictions, etc. of the majority. I pray my rights to be "weird", and quirky, and unusual, and individual, and unconventional, and odd, and alone in my plain of progression and understanding (though others may be confused or even repulsed by me), will be protected. And at the same time, I will share with LOVE - my understandings, but never expect others to conform to MY ways, simply because I believe I am right.
~Jules
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