| Re: Have I received my C&E? [message #2423 is a reply to message #2414] |
Mon, 06 May 2013 13:28   |
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I can't remember my password and at work so can't reset it at the moment. ;)
First, your C&E is not the same as seeing Christ. The first is a witness through the Holy Ghost you will be exalted. The later is the Second Comforter(SC) which is to have Christ with you always. These are seperate blessings. C&E occurs before and sometimes at the same time. Than you continue to receive the SC.
I am in no position to state what you had but if I were to guess it was not your C&E. Its called baptism by fire, remission of sins, change of heart, etc... There are many examples of this in the book of mormon. I think it was Zeezrom that was overcome with the guilt of his sins it caused a great fever upon him. Later it was swept away due to his willing to give up his sins. In Enos 1, we have another example of this.
Quote:4 And my soul hungered; and I kneeled down before my Maker, and I cried unto him in mighty prayer and supplication for mine own soul; and all the day long did I cry unto him; yea, and when the night came I did still raise my voice high that it reached the heavens.
5 And there came a voice unto me, saying: Enos, thy sins are forgiven thee, and thou shalt be blessed.
6 And I, Enos, knew that God could not lie; wherefore, my guilt was swept away.
7 And I said: Lord, how is it done?
8 And he said unto me: Because of thy faith in Christ, whom thou hast never before heard nor seen. And many years pass away before he shall manifest himself in the flesh; wherefore, go to, thy faith hath made thee cwhole.
Lorenzo Snow had a similar experience in Lesson 5 Student Manual, the grand destiny of the saints.
To determine if you have had your C&E (some can have received it and not know it)...
There are 3 suggested questions that are suggested means to the fastest way to make one's Calling and Election sure. These are:
1. Have I made my calling & Election sure? Wait for a response if you get a negative response, then ask...
2. May I have your promise, right now, that I will receive Exaltation & eternal Life? Wait for a response...
3. And only if you get a negative response ask the following...Who do I need to "become" to be worthy of the promise? Wait for a response...
The Lord will prove us, especially with patience if we haven't received it. Having your baptism by fire is a major stepping stone for members of the church. I think quite a few never even get to that point. Its this point we are now ready and being prepared to receive our C&E. I have a similar experience in my life (two of them) and I still sometimes doubt if they were my baptism by fire or something else but I keep reflecting back to it being my baptism by fire. So it must be.
-Zone (my username)
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