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zephyr
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iWitness wrote on Wed, 05 December 2012 22:22I'm kind of hesitant to write this, but here it goes...
I prayed to know if my C&E has been made sure, and after I prayed I thought about a quote from my Patriarchal Blessing:
"I seal you up to come forth on the morning of the first resurrection, clothed with glory, immortality, and eternal life"
My first thought was, "Don't most peoples blessings say that?"
So I was wondering if they do, or if it was my C&E.
I ordered Elliaison's book today...SO EXCITED TO READ IT!
-iWitness
After reading this thread it seems as though you have already resolved this one, however, I feel impressed to add something, perhaps it is for someone else who will yet read this.
Last May I received my C&E. It was a powerful experience, and I felt filled with a glowing power way beyond anything I have ever experienced. This lasted six days.
In my enthusiasm, which I couldn't contain, I posted my experience here. It was up for a little while, and then I began to feel that something wasn't right, so I asked Jules to remove it.
One morning in August, I was sitting at my computer (I work at home) and a revelation burst upon my mind. This revelation filled me with joy which brought tears to my eyes (if you knew me you would write this in your journal), I jumped out of my seat and ran down the stairs to tell my wife. I was literally jumping I was so filled with joy.
The revelation explained to me much of what has happened to me since joining the church. Mostly, it stated when my C&E was actually made sure, and that was in my Patriarchal Blessing, which I received when I was about 18.
Here is most of the last paragraph of my PB:
"These blessings I seal upon you through your faithfulness in keeping the covenants that you have made and will make with your Heavenly Father and I seal you up to come forth in the morning of the First Resurrection to immortality and eternal life that you may dwell in the Kingdom of your Heavenly Father with your loved ones eternally and this I do by the power of the Priesthood..."
The first church book I purchased was Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, so it didn't take me long to figure out what this was saying. However, I wouldn't allow myself to believe it. I even discussed it with priesthood leaders. My bishop told me I needed to accept it, but I couldn't.
Years later, I debated this with a stake patriarch in my ward.
Me: patriarchs do not have the authority to seal someone up to eternal life.
Patriarch: no, they don't, but the the Lord does and the patriarch speaks for the Lord.
I couldn't resist this logic, but I still didn't accept it.
A few years ago, my brother told me about Denver Snuffer's book The Second Comforter. This helped to open my mind. The next thing that happened was that Amonhi came to LDSFF. He posted several things, I was filled with the Spirit on one of them. I mean really filled. This was a powerful experience. I also did more reading, at elliaison.org, and I read the book The Fulness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. These things filled me with the Spirit again.
For the most part, I agree with Amonhi's post above, however, some of the blessings of C&E still seeped through, and as a result, I had decades of being alone in some ways (see the post about letdowns of C&E). My ability to learn from the scriptures exceeded everyone I met, including all the missionaries I met on my mission, and I could see when people were filled with the Spirit.
If I would have accepted it when I first understood it, I would have had many years of glorious experiences, and by now I perhaps I would have received the next blessing: Second Comforter.
In summary:
"What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same."
(Doctrine and Covenants 1:38)
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C&E in Patriarchal Blessing?
By: iWitness on Wed, 05 December 2012 20:22
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Re: C&E in Patriarchal Blessing?
By: JulesGP on Wed, 05 December 2012 20:27
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Re: C&E in Patriarchal Blessing?
By: Dragon on Thu, 06 December 2012 07:48
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By: Amonhi on Fri, 07 December 2012 13:14
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By: bishop on Sun, 09 December 2012 15:20
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