OH wow Seeker, this is awesome! I have argued similar points with others who could not accept the concept that Christ was born anything less than a perfect god from the day of His birth - that He had no progression, no learning, but was only here to be an example of fulfiling the laws and ordinances, and make the sacrifice to go through the Atonement. I am going to enjoy this discussion I'm sure.

I do have one question though, and maybe it's just word-play, or maybe you have something more to offer me for clarification. Why is he called the ONLY begotten son... when even he, it seems, had to BECOME begotten? It seems that most everyone associates the word "begotten" with the fact that he was conceived by the Lord, with a caveat that we can become adopted sons and daughters. Is this a misuse of the word?

Thank you for starting this thread!