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Re: Right and Wrong [message #1429 is a reply to message #1428] Sun, 11 November 2012 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Dragon, you said what pretty much everyone says when I bring up these topics.


I find it interesting that the people you talk to say mostly what I have said. That has not been my experience at all. Most members of the church aren't at a spiritual place where they've considered these things as important topics. Further, if most people actually DO believe as I do, then they certainly don't live up to their own understanding.

iWitness
I'm not coming from a place saying that everybody everywhere should abstain from meats!


Your essay on the consumption of flesh makes a valiant attempt to portray the slaying of any animal for consumption as evil. I find it hard to reconcile the above quote with everything else you wrote on the subject.

When I learned what is injected into cows, chickens, etc, during mass meat production, I knew it was affecting me physically. Thankfully I soon found myself in a place where I could raise my own beef. Watching that first cow be slaughtered was an experience I will never forget. Tasting the meat from that first cow was another memorable experience. Even today I cannot not help but think about the animal who was sacrificed so I could partake of the meat. I know through medical science my personal body chemistry burns through cholesterol like a race car burns through fuel. If I don't have a steady source of high octane, high protein food, I grow weak, and sick both physically and mentally. I need to eat meat.

I do wish everyone (especially those in the church) would visit the places where their meat comes from, as I said before. If we all did, there would be far less meat consumption. There is another aspect to this conversation which is missing. What do you eat in place of meat? My father has searched through many books, trying to find a vegetarian diet which provides the body with what it needs. He was very excited when he learned about a professional athlete who sticks to a vegetarian diet. The difficulties he was unable to resolve involved proper sources of protein and certain minerals found much more abundantly in meats (such as iron).

You also spoke of abundance, which is certainly available. We run a produce co-op so we can buy wholesale produce. We don't really make a profit from the group, just enough to pay for gas and vehicle wear and tear. We started out eating one share (about 35 lbs) every two weeks. It was hard at first to get through all those fruits and vegetables with only two people to eat it. Now we are getting 2 shares, and we run out of produce a day or two before the next co-op date. We had people join our group, only to quit after the first couple times, stating their family of five couldn't get through one share (or sometimes half a share) in two weeks!

As you may have noticed, I am somewhat passionate about this subject. I have dealt with it spiritually, physically, mentally, and emotionally. I have heard people saying we should all stop eating meat for more than twenty years. I have yet to be spiritually persuaded that anyone can find greater enlightenment by abstaining from meat. As with all subjects like this, if you abstain from meat, do it in obedience to God. If you partake of meat, do it in obedience to God with thanksgiving for what He provides.

- Dragon

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