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Re: Will there be other Saviors for other worlds? [message #1404 is a reply to message #1399] Thu, 08 November 2012 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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JulesGP wrote on Thu, 08 November 2012 14:01
Dragon wrote on Tue, 23 October 2012 08:00
JulesGP,
Your implication hangs a lot of doctrinal weight upon a single word. There are many quotes listed above by those in authority to indicate the sacrifice of Jehovah was the one and only sacrifice ever needed on this world or any other. Can you provide quotes by those in authority who agree with and expound upon the implication you believe?

Are you saying that you believe the Savior Jesus Christ atoned for the sins of the worlds of other Gods, and those previous to when our God came to be? What I have read so far in this thread doesn't seem to support that position unequivocally. It seems to me that the atonement of our Savior would apply to THESE worlds in which the Savior has business with:

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33 And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten.


I think I follow you Jules! It goes along the same lines when Joseph Smith said.. "There are no angels who administer to this earth but who belong or have belonged to this earth."

It also goes along the lines that no man, nor prophet has ever been allowed in the flesh to see all gods creations. Only the creation of this earth and those who belong to it.

A major misconception about the The Pearl of Great price is that
Moses and Abraham were allowed to see many creations and many of Gods kingdoms. But this is just not so.

Here is the exchange between Moses and the Lord.

Moses 1;3 And God spake unto Moses, saying: Behold, I am the Lord God Almighty, and Endless is my name; for I am without beginning of days or end of years; and is not this endless?

4 And, behold, thou art my son; wherefore look, and I will show thee the workmanship of mine hands; but not all, for my works are without end, and also my words, for they never cease.

5 Wherefore, no man can behold all my works, except he behold all my glory; and no man can behold all my glory, and afterwards remain in the flesh on the earth.

6 And I have a work for thee, Moses, my son; and thou art in the similitude of mine Only Begotten; and mine Only Begotten is and shall be the Savior, for he is full of grace and truth; but there is no God beside me, and all things are present with me, for I know them all.

(What's interesting here and will shortly be explained is when God says,"mine Only Begotten is and shall be the Savior" he is talking about the Savior of this world only and all those who belong to it. Not Other worlds. I guess he could be, but I am starting to believe it only pertains to this world)

7 And now, behold, this one thing I show unto thee, Moses, my son, for thou art in the world, and now I show it unto thee.

8 And it came to pass that Moses looked, and beheld the world upon which he was created; and Moses beheld the world and the ends thereof, and all the children of men which are, and which were created; of the same he greatly marveled and wondered.

We continue on latter in the account...

33 And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten.

34 And the first man of all men have I called Adam, which is many.

35 But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you. For behold, there are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power. And there are many that now stand, and innumerable are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me, for they are mine and I know them.

36 And it came to pass that Moses spake unto the Lord, saying: Be merciful unto thy servant, O God, and tell me concerning this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, and also the heavens, and then thy servant will be content.

37 And the Lord God spake unto Moses, saying: The heavens, they are many, and they cannot be numbered unto man; but they are numbered unto me, for they are mine.

38 And as one earth shall pass away, and the heavens thereof even so shall another come; and there is no end to my works, neither to my words.

39 For behold, this is my work and my glory--to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

40 And now, Moses, my son, I will speak unto thee concerning this earth upon which thou standest; and thou shalt write the things which I shall speak.

It is clear Moses was only shown those things, both heaven and earth that pertained to this earth only. This also brings up the next misconception but when taken into light of what Moses actually was allowed to see(this earth only) and that Abraham was only allowed to see the same thing, things start to become clear.

On another note, The book of Abraham is not some secret revelation by God or Joseph Smith or some hidden mystery. Joseph Smith was only telling us what the Egyptians themselves believed about these symbols. This is a fact!! When one understands this, then the images will start to come alive and bring clarity and understanding.

One example is figure 3 in the hypocephalus where Joseph wrote: "Is made to represent God, sitting upon his throne, clothed with power and authority, with a crown of eternal light upon his head."

These are the words Joseph chose to depict the Egyptian god Horus seated in his solar boat.

The words "made to represent" clearly indicates he is interpreting the meaning attributed to it by the Egyptians. The "who" that made these images - to represent things, were the Egyptians themselves. Not God or Joseph Smith. Can this phrase have any other interpretation?? No it can't. So Joseph Smith's interpretations are nothing more than descriptions of the symbols of the facsimiles. There is insurmountable evidence that also confirms this and also proves Joseph had the right interpretations.

Joseph Smith's interpretations are spot on. In fact, when one is familiar with the works of Anthony Larson, David Talbott and Dwardu Cardona, the works the Book of Abraham will come alive and finally make so much more sense. It will also increase ones testimony of Joseph Smith and bring much clarity of the imagery so often used by the prophets. Or in other words, the language of the prophets. Metaphors, sacred imagery, symbolism. (Daniel, Ezekiel, Zechariah, Joel, Isaiah, John the Revelator, the Savior, Joseph Smith ect..)

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