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Re: Overcoming abuse through the atonement [message #1252 is a reply to message #1251] Thu, 11 October 2012 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Dragon

You believe the majority of LDS Church members are in favor of psychotherapy and pharmaceuticals, but you yourself do not recommend them.

I do find that the majority of the LDS Church members that are in my area that I converse with (FYI - ALASKA) are in favor of pharmaceuticals. And it is correct that I do not recommend them. However, as I said, I do not judge those who use them.

Dragon

The implication is you believe no one should need them because there is a better way to deal with such problems. Is this what you believe?

The simple answer would be "correct". No one should need them. That is not to say that there are not those individuals who do need them. I believe there are...according to their faith.

D&C 42
43 And whosoever among you are sick, and have not faith to be healed, but believe, shall be nourished with all tenderness, with herbs and mild food, and that not by the hand of an enemy.

I might be wrong to assume this so please don't take offense. This is my understanding as it pertains to me at this time. I read and understand that verse to be distinguishing between two laws. A higher and lower. The higher law pertains to those who's faith will heal them. The lower law pertains to those who's faith will not heal them so they shall be nourished with herbs and mild food.

Smile We could start a less edifying conversation about my understanding leading me to believe who "not by the hand of an enemy" is...

As a side note to that thought. Currently I am sick. I use herbs. My faith has not been sufficient to heal me Wink I rely on herbs.

Dragon
Because that is what I see in the Mormon culture; people who believe faith can cure all ills without the aide of medicine.
I do not live in such a place to see Mormon culture believing this...if you don't feel accepted by Mormon culture because of the use of pharmaceuticals...move to Anchorage Alaska...that is if you want to be accepted Smile

Dragon

The sad truth is the human mind is not a computer program. It is not easy to erase memories, or overcome their effects in our life. Healing is a tough road to walk, and every journey is as individual as the person taking it. Personal revelation is vital, and sometimes, so are pharmaceuticals.


Erase the memories...I hope I didn't give that impression. The memories are as vivid as I allow them to be. Their effects is what can be erased...as far as the mental/spiritual pain that is.

I agree that the healing is a tough road to walk...it feels much more like crawling with your belly to the ground and your nose digging a trench in front of you. Yes, very difficult. And yes, personal revelation is vital. Are pharmaceuticals...I don't think so. I think pharmaceuticals are for a certain realm...a certain law...but not vital.

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