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Re: The Coming Day [message #993 is a reply to message #777] Sun, 26 August 2012 01:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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[quote]BringerOfJoy wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 12:46
Amonhi wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 08:21


Without sin, there is no repentance, without repentance, there is no baptism for the remission of sins. Without sin and these ordinances, there is no need for the atonement.


This begs the question, then: Why are there symbols of the atonement in the terrestrial section of the endowment?

That is a good question...

I admit that at present I have questions in this area. There seem to be contradictions which have not been resolved in my mind. I do know for certain that the in the Millennium we return to a Terrestrial state which is to say redeemed from the fall and we begin to focus on non-salvation type stuff. The children born in the Millennium are/will be raised without sin to salvation. So they are beyond the fall. Those in the Millennium will be worthy of that state of being which is the minimum requirement for the Terrestrial Kingdom = Testimony of Christ/Love.

The Telestial are judged by their works, good or evil, and they are the ONLY kingdom that is judged by works. (D&C 76) But the Terrestrial are not. They are covered by Grace. But they have not been "valiant in the testimony of Christ unto obtaining the crown"/promise of the crown.

There is much more to this, but it is 1:00am and I need to go to bed...

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What will happen to the LDS church when the Millennium begins and those who have there calling and election made sure come with Christ in the clouds as the majority of the church membership with all the other churches of the world sit and watch?


I think I'll let YOU answer that Amonhi, but if the answer is that all the "watchers" get burned up; then that doesn't mesh very well with the Terrestrial section of D&C 76 where there are the "Honorable Men" of the earth that make it to the Terrestrial kingdom. Or does it?

LOL, no, they won't be burned up. Only the Telestial will not survive the transition into the Millennium and the symbolic "Baptism of Fire". The Majority of the LDS church will be taught with the rest of the remaining world about the higher Celestial principles and teachings.

In other words,The Firstborn will teach the general membership of the LDS along with all the other religions/people who have not yet received their promise in a great effort to raise them from the Terrestrial to the Celestial.

They will not be teaching them to accept Christ because they already have...Old news, let's leave the foundation and move on to perfection...

"Heb. 6:1-3"
1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit.


Peace,
Amonhi
 
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