D&C 88
24 And he who cannot abide the law of a atelestial bkingdom cannot abide a telestial cglory; therefore he is not meet for a kingdom of glory. Therefore he must abide a kingdom which is not a kingdom of glory.

Perdition
Some people will not be worthy to dwell in any kingdom of glory. They will be called "the sons of perdition" and will have to "abide a kingdom which is not a kingdom of glory" (D&C 76:32; 88:24). This will be the state of "those who know [God's] power, and have been made partakers thereof, and suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy [God's] power" (D&C 76:31; see also D&C 76:30, 32-49).

Degrees of glory
Degrees of glory. It is apparent that if God rewards everyone according to the deeds done in the body, the term heaven as intended for man's eternal home must include more kingdoms than one. In speaking of man in his resurrected state, Paul tells of glories like the sun, the moon, and the stars (1 Cor. 15:3941). He also speaks of the "third heaven" (2 Cor. 12:2). Jesus spoke of "many mansions" or kingdoms (John 14:2). Latter-day revelation confirms the teaching of the Bible on these matters and verifies that there are three general categories or glories to which the members of the human family will be assigned in the judgment following their resurrection from the grave. These are known as the celestial, terrestrial, and telestial kingdoms, of which the sun, moon, and stars are spoken of as being typical (D&C 76; 88:2032; 131:14). In addition to the degrees of glory, there is a place of no glory, called perdition, reserved for those who commit the unpardonable sin.

Those who become sons of perdition while in mortality will be resurrected with unglorified physical bodies and "rise to the damnation of their own filthiness" (TPJS, p. 361). Cain, thus resurrected, will then rule over the unembodied Lucifer (Moses 5:23; MD, p. 109).

Moses 5:23 If thou doest well, thou shalt be aaccepted. And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door, and Satan bdesireth to have thee; and except thou shalt hearken unto my commandments, I will cdeliver thee up, and it shall be unto thee according to his desire. And thou shalt drule over him;
24 For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his alies; thou shalt be called bPerdition; for thou wast also cbefore the world.

"Now this is the state of the souls of the wicked, yea, in darkness, and a state of awful, fearful looking for the fiery indignation of the wrath of God upon them; thus they remain in this state, as well as the righteous in paradise, until the time of their resurrection" (Alma 40:1214).

17 Wherefore, I, the Lord, have said that the fearful, and the unbelieving, and all liars, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie, and the whoremonger, and the sorcerer, shall have their part in that lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
18 Verily I say, that they shall not have part in the first resurrection.

Alma 12:16 - And now behold, I say unto you then cometh a death, even a second death, which is a spiritual death; then is a time that whosoever dieth in his sins, as to a temporal death, shall also die a spiritual death; yea, he shall die as to things pertaining unto righteousness.

Alma 12:32 - Therefore God gave unto them commandments, after having made known unto them the plan of redemption, that they should not do evil, the penalty thereof being a second death, which was an everlasting death as to things pertaining unto righteousness; for on such the plan of redemption could have no power, for the works of justice could not be destroyed, according to the supreme goodness of God.

Hel 14:18 - Yea, and it bringeth to pass the condition of repentance, that whosoever repenteth the same is not hewn down and cast into the fire; but whosoever repenteth not is hewn down and cast into the fire; and there cometh upon them again a spiritual death, yea, a second death, for they are cut off again as to things pertaining to righteousness.

Why wouldn't they keep their bodies? Our bodies were given to us as a result of keeping our First Estate,

something which all sons of perdition did.

zephyr wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 20:33

something which all sons of perdition did.

With the exception of those who went with Lucifer in the war in Heaven, who became sons of perdition but won't have bodies... unless I am mistaken here?

Journal of Discourses Volume 3 Brigham Young 8/8/1852 The Gospel of Salvation, Etc.

A quick note here, Lucifer is not a Son of Perdition. He is Perdition. The Sons of Perdition become his sons by following his teachings and embracing them. This is the same way we become the Sons and Daughters of Jesus Christ, and He becomes our Father, making him the Father and the Son.

Re: Female SoP's,
By way of persuasion, consider the following:

1. The condition to become a SoP is to know Christ, and then turn altogether therefrom and commit the unpardonable sin.

2. Agency is not unique to the male gender, nor is achieving the Calling and Election.

3. To deny the existence of a female SoP is to say their agency is somehow taken away.

I have heard many statements about why there are no DoP's, and some of them have a kernel of truth, surrounded by a big lie. For instance:

Women are better than men because there are no daughters of perdition.

Women don't hold the priesthood so they cannot sin against it, and therefore cannot become a daughter of perdition.

God loves women more than men, so He would never punish them as daughters of perdition.

I expect you've heard others. Each of these is false as a whole statement. I have heard many people say women are more righteous than men, because there will be more women in the Celestial Kingdom, thus requiring polygamy. Perhaps that is true, but I am not sure. As for women and the priesthood, I have recently learned that ALL members of the Church of the Firstborn are High Priests (or Priestesses) after the Holy Order of God. As membership in the Church of the Firstborn is a prerequisite to a fall to outer darkness, the argument that women cannot sin against the priesthood is false. Also, God has a great respect for women, which is why God's wife is not mentioned in most scripture. But to say this could lead to the prevention of Daughter of Perdition is to say God would take away their agency to prevent it.

If there could not be any daughters of perdition, that would also mean no female spirits fell with Lucifer. Gender is eternal and does not start at birth. If 1/3 of men fell, and no women, there would be 3 women for every 2 men on this earth. Statistics do not show this to be the case (even though many singles wards do).

Now, consider the following. Mankind refers to men, women, and children. So does Man, when used in a general sense. Further, unless one is Exalted, gender has little meaning. It is not something we lose, but gender is enhanced in the Celestial Kingdom, through eternal progression. The opposite of that is Outer Darkness, and there gender has little meaning.

If 1/3 of men fell, and no women, there would be 3 women for every 2 men on this earth. Statistics do not show this to be the case (even though many singles wards do).

zephyr wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 20:33

Why wouldn't they keep their bodies? Our bodies were given to us as a result of keeping our First Estate,

True, I can see that.

zephyr wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 20:33

something which all sons of perdition did.

With the exception of those who went with Lucifer in the war in Heaven, who became sons of perdition but won't have bodies... unless I am mistaken here?

I haven't read this whole, so my reply may be a repeat, but... Lol, you want to hear something funny...

Well, Cain is called Perdition and he progressed further than Satan. The more progressed you are, the worse you are capable of being, so Cain is a badder dude then Lucifer. So, here is the funny part... Cain was sentenced to live in or more accurately live with "outer darkness". His outer darkness resembles his inner darkness.

The glory of God is intellegence.

JulesGP wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 19:45

zephyr wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 20:33

Why wouldn't they keep their bodies? Our bodies were given to us as a result of keeping our First Estate,

True, I can see that.

zephyr wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 20:33

something which all sons of perdition did.

With the exception of those who went with Lucifer in the war in Heaven, who became sons of perdition but won't have bodies... unless I am mistaken here?

I haven't read this whole, so my reply may be a repeat, but... Lol, you want to hear something funny...

Well, Cain is called Perdition and he progressed further than Satan. The more progressed you are, the worse you are capable of being, so Cain is a badder dude then Lucifer. So, here is the funny part... Cain was sentenced to live in or more accurately live with "outer darkness". His outer darkness resembles his inner darkness.

The glory of God is intellegence.

This second death is not,
then, the dissolution or annihilation of both spirit and body, but banishment from the
presence of God and from partaking of the things of righteousness.
In speaking of the transgression of Adam, the Lord has said: "Wherefore, I, the Lord God,
caused that he should be cast out from the Garden of Eden, from my presence, because of his
transgression, wherein he became spiritually dead, which is the first death, even that same
death which is the last death, which is spiritual, which shall be pronounced upon the wicked
when I shall say: Depart, ye cursed."222. 23

The second death is spiritual; it is banishment from the presence of the Lord. It is similar to
the first spiritual death, which has passed upon all men who have remained unrepentant and
who have not received the gospel. Those who have suffered the first spiritual death or
departure, which is a shutting out from the presence of God, have the privilege of being
redeemed from this death through obedience to the principles of the gospel. Through
baptism and confirmation they are born again and thus come back into spiritual life, and
through their continued obedience to the end, they shall be made partakers of the blessings
of eternal life in the celestial kingdom of God.
Those who partake of the second death are those who have had the spiritual light and have
rebelled against it. These remain in their sins in their banishment.

Alma in the
Book of Mormon has clearly and forcefully depicted their status in the following words:
"And now behold, I say unto you then cometh a death, even a second death, which is a
spiritual death; then is a time that whosoever dieth in his sins, as to a temporal death, shall
also die a spiritual death; yea, he shall die as to things pertaining unto righteousness."

Amonhi, did you mean Cain is a Son of Perdition? I thought that Lucifer was called perdition, and those who follow him are Sons of Perdition. Am I misunderstanding?

Moses 5:24 - For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.