Elliaison.org - Forum
Elliaison.org forum is a free discussion group focused on the persuit of truth and spiritual knowledge from every source.
Home » Calling and Election Made Sure » How You Received Your Calling and Election Made Sure » scripture references of experiences of others having their C&E made
Re: scripture references of experiences of others having their C&E made [message #878 is a reply to message #243] Thu, 09 August 2012 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Taliesin is currently offline  Taliesin
Messages: 7
Registered: June 2012
Location: The Midwest
Junior Member
I'm taking this thread back to a previous track. Just want to put my two cents in.

Sariah had her calling and election made sure. Nephi was very clever when he coded it into his narrative.

1 Nephi 5

1) AND it came to pass that after we had come down into the wilderness unto our father, behold, he was filled with joy, and also my mother, Sariah, was exceedingly glad, for she truly had mourned because of us.

2) For she had supposed that we had perished in the wilderness; and she also had complained against my father, telling him that he was a visionary man; saying: Behold thou hast led us forth from the land of our inheritance, and my sons are no more, and we perish in the wilderness.

It seems that when they left Jerusalem, they left their daughters who were married to the sons of Ishmael. At this point Sariah had abandoned her daughters (and their children, her grandchildren) and believed that all of her sons were dead. She felt that she had lost all of her children and grandchildren. She had also given up a comfortable life with a nice home, plenty of money, and upper-class society to follow her husband to live the life of a nomad with no clear direction on how this thing would end. This was a major trial for her.

3) And after this manner of language had my mother complained against my father.

4) And it had come to pass that my father spake unto her, saying: I know that I am a visionary man; for if I had not seen the things of God in a vision I should not have known the goodness of God, but had tarried at Jerusalem, and had perished with my brethren.

5) But behold, I have obtained a land of promise, in the which things I do rejoice; yea, and I know that the Lord will deliver my sons out of the hands of Laban, and bring them down again unto us in the wilderness.

6) And after this manner of language did my father, Lehi, comfort my mother, Sariah, concerning us, while we journeyed in the wilderness up to the land of Jerusalem, to obtain the record of the Jews.

Lehi did a good job of teaching Sariah "the way". She got it and it didn't take her very long because it was while the sons were still on their way up to Jerusalem that she was "comforted" by Lehi.

7) And when we had returned to the tent of my father, behold their joy was full, and my mother was comforted.

Sariah is "comforted" again, but it wasn't Lehi who comforted her. Was she comforted when her sons walked in, or had she been comforted (the second time) before they got there? In addition, she and Lehi together had a "fullness of joy". Did Nephi return and walk into their tent and behold that they were already in a state of joy and comfort? His return was probably not have been the (entire) cause of their joy and comfort.

Cool And she spake, saying: Now I know of a surety that the Lord hath commanded my husband to flee into the wilderness; yea, and I also know of a surety that the Lord hath protected my sons, and delivered them out of the hands of Laban, and given them power whereby they could accomplish the thing which the Lord hath commanded them. And after this manner of language did she speak.

There are things that she "knows of a surety", which is a big deal.

9) And it came to pass that they did rejoice exceedingly, and did offer sacrifice and burnt offerings unto the Lord; and they gave thanks unto the God of Israel.

Here they rejoice exceedingly. This is different from verse 7 when they had a fullness of joy. Something else happened that Nephi doesn't tell us about, but the result was that they rejoiced exceedingly. The phrase "and it came to pass" means that something happened but it's not told what it was.

Sariah is comforted twice, rejoices twice and knows of a surety. She had her calling and election made sure, had the Second Comforter, and was caught away with Lehi and they were sealed together into the heavenly family (that's why they rejoiced exceedingly in verse 9). At least, that's the way I read it.

Their son Jacob saw the Lord at a young age (probably by 15). Who lead him "in the way"? It could have been Nephi, Lehi, or his mother Sariah. I like to think that it was his mother who mentored him so he could reach that point so young.

Report message to a moderator

[Message index]
 
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Previous Topic: When did I know?
Next Topic: The greatest wedding gift ever!
Goto Forum:
  

[ Syndicate this forum (XML) ] [ RSS ] [ PDF ]

Current Time: Fri Nov 22 23:53:14 MST 2024
.:: Contact :: Home ::.

Powered by: FUDforum 3.1.0.
Copyright ©2001-2020 FUDforum Bulletin Board Software