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Re: Sinning as Spirits in the Premortal World [message #513 is a reply to message #506] Mon, 18 June 2012 19:53 Go to previous message
Amonhi is currently offline  Amonhi
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"Dragon"
This could easily be misinterpreted to mean we only really repent once. While this may be your end goal, stated in so short a phrase, it can lead to ideas such as 'God expects me to keep sinning for awhile longer, so I might as well do it.'

What I think doesn't make it true. Either what I said is true or it isn't. If I can explain it well enough to accept or not does not change its validity. Whether people chose to think such things or not does not change its validity, right or wrong.

First, I want to point out that the goal is LOVE, not obedience to the lower law which can never save us. God looks on our hearts, not our actions.

I believe that if a person has the attitude you discribe, they will stop feeling the spirit. Grace is AFTER all we can do, not in place of. Trying and failing is one thing, but not trying at all is an entirely different thing. I am sure God will judge fairly based on our hearts and not our actions.

"Dragon"
'If I haven't had my calling and election made sure, and achieved the final redemption, then I'm only a worthless sinner who will never improve.'

I don't see this at all. This represents a lack of hope. I think is would be more accurate to say, God has faith in me and so has given me his spirit to encourage me, teach me and help me to progress. He has essentially "paid it forward" or "paid it in advance" "because of the foreknowledge of God". So, God is saying that we are capable of doing it and has essentially given us the reward in advance knowing that we will earn it in the long run. This should create greater hope, not less hope.
 
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