Re: Sinning as Spirits in the Premortal World [message #484 is a reply to message #481] |
Tue, 12 June 2012 18:28 |
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Dragon
Messages: 499 Registered: June 2010 Location: Earth
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That is a very long quote from a text, with many quotes to support the conversation. One thing I noted, however, is how few of those quotes are in scripture. That means the majority of the text, and therefor your conclusions, are not based on canonized Church doctrine. As such, all of it is subject to scrutiny.
Is there any direct quote showing we spent all of our pre-existence in the presence of God? Or did He send us to accomplish tasks, and then 'Return and Report'?
It seems difficult to reconcile the concept of sinning in the presence of God with the doctrine that no unclean thing can dwell in the presence of God. It doesn't say enter, it says dwell. So, while an unclean thing may enter the presence of God, it cannot stay long. Thus God and Lucifer could talk after Lucifer's fall, but Lucifer could no longer dwell in heaven.
There isn't much in the doctrine about what happened in the pre-existence. We know there was one, but anything more than referencing the war, and knowing we took actions to gain or lose favor, seems little more than speculation without a spiritual confirmation of its veracity.
Feeling skeptical,
- Dragon
- Dragon
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