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Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost [message #2703 is a reply to message #895] Sat, 24 August 2013 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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zone wrote on Thu, 22 August 2013 10:00
Were we angels in an 1st estate

"There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones . . . Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory" (D&C 129:1, 3).

So the spirits of just men made perfect/complete/whole could be ministering to people on the earth, yes.

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"Sons of God who exalt themselves to be Gods, even from before the foundation of the world" (Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 348).

This has been discussed in another thread, but Abraham 4:1 states that the Gods organized and formed the heavens and the earth. If we believe Michael was one of those who organized and formed the heavens and the earth, then his spirit was sufficiently Holy (whether 98%, 99%, or even 100%???) to be considered a God with a capital "G".

"It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:51). I don't think he meant that Michael is the one and only Holy Ghost, but that premortally Adam "received" Michael, Jesus "received" Jehovah, and we are told to "receive" our full divine potential.

zone wrote on Thu, 22 August 2013 10:00
If there are more than one Hg, Holy Ghosts. Than how do we become this Ghost? Think of it is it just a title of an exaltation? . . . So its really our own spirit that becomes one ONLY after we have passed the test of a 2nd estate and raise our spirits to the level of progress to be termed "An Holy Ghost".

(I previously posted Brigham Young's statement from Journal of Discourses 1:93, followed by Colossians 2:9.) The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are within us, but certainly not at the level of "fulness" that Christ has.
  • The Holy Ghost in us represents the omnipresent Light of Christ (Spirit of the Gods), ranging in intensity from (to pick arbitrary numbers) close to 0% (son of perdition) to 100% or higher (God). Lectures on Faith 5:2 states that those who are exalted would "possess the same mind," which is the Holy Ghost (in its fullness of 100% or higher). But I think we still retain our individual personalities (see below).
  • The Son in us represents our physical body. In my opinion, then, there will still be variability in the way our physical bodies appear to others.
  • The Father in us represents our spirit body. In my opinion, then, there will still be variability in our personalities (favorite ice cream flavor, etc.).
"No member of the Godhead dwells in us in the literal sense of the word, but all of them dwell in us figuratively to the extent that we are like them. If we have 'the mind of Christ' (1 Corinthians 2:16), which we receive by the power of the Holy Ghost, then Christ dwells in us. If the love of God abides in our souls, which love is a gift of God that comes by the power of the Holy Ghost, then God dwells in us. In some way beyond our comprehension, all of this is possible by the power of the Holy Ghost" (Bruce R. McConkie, A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, 271-2).

The First Presidency of George Albert Smith, J. Reuben Clark, and David O. McKay wrote that God "has taught us the immortality of the human soul, itself a trinity of intelligence, of spiritual body, and of mortal body, and that after the resurrection, our trinity reunited, we become perfected beings" (James R. Clark, Messages of the First Presidency 6:236).

"I have heard it said, often, that man is a dual being--I say, he is a trinity. Man is a representative of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. When a human body comes into the world, there is a light from another sphere placed within it. The spirit that God places within this tabernacle was not created in this sphere, it was created yonder, in the presence of our Father and our Mother in heaven. When that spirit tabernacle was born unto them, there was a light, there was an intelligence placed within it that existed from everlasting. So that man was created in the image of God, and, like unto God, he is from everlasting to everlasting, and is thus a representative of the Trinity in heaven" (Ben E. Rich, October 1908 General Conference).

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