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Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost [message #2639 is a reply to message #2115]

Wed, 07 August 2013 12:09

Seeker
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I am jumping in here, having not read all the other posts on the thread, but wanted to add my thoughts on this point:
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I believe time is temporary.

You provide a good reference to support this. There are many definitions of time. In my study of physics, I find that time is a measurement of change and that some changes are cyclical which allows us to use them to segment and reference non-cyclical changes. For example, the earth rotates and we see the sun rise and fall repeatedly, so we call it a day. But if time stopped, then the sun would stop moving across the sky and half the earth would be in darkness. Even more so, if time stopped then the atoms would also stop vibrating and the electrons would freeze and the energy that makes up all things would stop expressing itself; even light would stop and nothing would exist. not only would the clocks stop ticking, but they would stop existing. Even God would stop existing. And if God continued to exist, He/She could do nothing because the moment change begins again, time has begun again...

So when the scriptures say that time stops, it doesn't mean that the fundamental cause of time, (Change), has stopped. It means that the problems associated with time and that give time its sting have stopped. For example, over time we age and die. When we have become immortal, we essentially have unlimited time and so the fear of not being able to accomplish everything we need to accomplish in the life time we are given become nullified. Time has become unlimited. Eternal youth. No more decay, aging, dying. It then becomes as if time did not exist for us. But in reality, time does exist because we can change things and because time is change, we can reference things like, before and after and we will still use cyclical changes to segment and reference the order of events. For example, that scripture you quoted and the whole song takes place at the beginning of the millennium which lasts for a 1000 years in which Satan is bound, all those remaining will know Christ, The Lord will have redeemed his people (brought them back into the paradise from which they fell, not exalted them), etc. When the Millennium begins, Christ's work and the Aaronic Priesthood is is finished. But there will be a thousand years in which Satan is bound before he is again loosed. So, time still exists in that things still happen and time can be calculated and recorded, but there is no death and decay any more. So, time overcome such that the negative effects of time no longer exist, yet clocks still work and the sun still moves across the sky and all things still exist, so time still remains as before.

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