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Re: Identity of the Holy Ghost [message #2585 is a reply to message #895]

Thu, 27 June 2013 23:44

Elejian
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I may be wrong, but as far as I can tell, in the KJV New Testament, "ghost" = "spirit." The Greek adjective hagios + the neuter noun pneuma are sometimes translated as "Holy Ghost," and sometimes translated as "Holy Spirit." (Why couldn't the translators have been consistent?)

Alma 11:44 states that the Father, Son, and "Holy Spirit" are one God.

I have a list (too long to post here) of the times when the Spirit is referred to as "it" or "he," and the times when the Holy Ghost is referred to as "it" or "he."

Brigham Young said, "It is the Deity within us that causes increase. Does this idea startle you? Are you ready to exclaim, 'What! the Supreme in us!' Yes. He is in every person upon the face of the earth. The elements that every individual is made of and lives in, possess the Godhead. This you cannot now understand, but you will hereafter" (Journal of Discourses 1:93). Colossians 2:9 states that in Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."

If we symbolically start in this fallen world with our backs to the sun (Potential Self), looking at our shadow (our carnal/false self, the "god of this world"), then perhaps the first 4 principles of the Gospel on another level of symbolism would be (briefly):

1. Faith in the existence of one's Potential Self (Potential Fulness of Godhead Within).

2. Repentance = Hebrew shube = To "turn around," to take all those steps to get us facing the right direction (toward the source of light, having the proper goal in sight).

3. Baptism - Immersion in all things good, while washing away all things impure.

4. Truly receive the Holy Ghost, which is to receive the fulness of the omnipresent Spirit occupying the same area where our body is. So in that sense, what we are receiving is person-shaped -- a "personage"! "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known" (1 Corinthians 13:12, emphasis added).

All exalted beings are Holy Ghosts/Spirits clothed with celestial bodies.

On this layer of interpretation, the unpardonable sin is truly terrible: to actually know of the existence of one's Higher/Potential Self, and then deny it exists, purposely shutting the doors of eternal progression to oneself! The Spirit will not always strive with a man (e.g. 2 Nephi 26:11), because when he is so far lost, his Potential Self can no longer become an actuality.

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