| Re: Salvation and the Atonement [message #234 is a reply to message #21] |
Mon, 28 February 2011 21:17   |
Seeker
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I was rereading this after having read the Lev. 16 thread about the Day of Atonement.
Did that thread change your view on some of these points?
For example, point 6 doesn't seem right anymore.
In addition, I have often wondered what the atonement accomplishes. The idea is that by repenting we can erase the sin as if it never happened. For example, though your sins be as red as scarlet they shall be white as snow, etc...
Well, the atonement doesn't take away the natural consequences. For example, if you have a baby outside of wedlock from a one-night-stand, no matter how well you repent, the baby doesn't magically disappear. So it is with all the natural consequences. They all remain long after we have repented. So the Atonement doesn't undo anything.
It seems to help us deal with what was done not correct or undo what what was done. This is a problem for me because if I truly caused someone pain and I repent and attempt to repair the damage I caused them, I still can't make it right. I can't change the past and Christ doesn't change the past and it will never be truly fixed. For example, I may pay someone back for money I took from them, but if they had that money for the duration that I had taken it, they might have used it. Did they miss the opportunity to buy something or invest in something? No matter what I do, I can't give them there money back during the time I didn't have it.
I invested some $88K in a company that was supposed to give me a number of houses for it. After 2 years I still don't have the houses and I don't have the money to re-invest. They have agreed to pay me back, but I am missing out on opportunities that can't be replaced.
How does the atonement make any difference for:
1 - The victim,
2 - The criminal/sinner
~ Seeker
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