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JulesGP
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D&C 58:26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.
I cannot see how this applies to following the Spirit. My understanding is that this applies to commandments, not following the Spirit.
Quote: 26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.
27 Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness;
28 For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward.
29 But he that doeth not anything until he is commanded, and receiveth a commandment with doubtful heart, and keepeth it with slothfulness, the same is damned.
30 Who am I that made man, saith the Lord, that will hold him guiltless that obeys not my commandments?
31 Who am I, saith the Lord, that have promised and have not fulfilled?
32 I command and men obey not; I revoke and they receive not the blessing.
33 Then they say in their hearts: This is not the work of the Lord, for his promises are not fulfilled. But wo unto such, for their breward lurketh cbeneath, and not from above.
I agree with Ashley, we CHOOSE to follow the Spirit, then that brings to pass righteousness. If we have to be commanded or compelled by quotas and numbers to do our home teaching, that is being a slothful servant.
It's funny that you mentioned toothpaste..... After a lot of praying, I was led by the Spirit to a HUGE awakening about the chemicals and such in products we use every day that were making me sick and deteriorate to nothing. I was taught how to make my own products from scratch. One of those that I make from herbs and healthy, edible, organic, chemical free ingredients, is toothpaste. I also discovered (after a trip to the ER), that my son is highly allergic to one of the primary ingredients in toothpaste. So he too now uses my homemade toothpaste. I have the Spirit of the Lord to thank for the kind of toothpaste I use.
If we learn to follow the spirit regularly, we will be guided in ALL things.
Quote:7 But ye are commanded in all things to ask of God, who giveth liberally; and that which the Spirit testifies unto you even so I would that ye should do in all holiness of heart, walking uprightly before me, considering the end of your salvation, doing all things with prayer and thanksgiving, that ye may not be seduced by evil spirits, or doctrines of devils, or the commandments of men; for some are of men, and others of devils.
Quote: 30 He that asketh in the Spirit asketh according to the will of God; wherefore it is done even as he asketh.
31 And again, I say unto you, all things must be done in the name of Christ, whatsoever you do in the Spirit;
32 And ye must give thanks unto God in the Spirit for whatsoever blessing ye are blessed with.
Quote:2 And I, Nephi, said unto them: Behold they were manifest unto the prophet by the voice of the Spirit; for by the Spirit are all things made known unto the prophets, which shall come upon the children of men according to the flesh.
Quote:13 Now the Spirit knoweth all things; nevertheless the Son of God suffereth according to the flesh that he might take upon him the sins of his people, that he might blot out their transgressions according to the power of his deliverance; and now behold, this is the testimony which is in me.
Quote:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Quote:61 Therefore it is given to abide in you; the record of heaven; the Comforter; the peaceable things of immortal glory; the truth of all things; that which quickeneth all things, which maketh alive all things; that which knoweth all things, and hath all power according to wisdom, mercy, truth, justice, and judgment.
Quote:12 And now, verily, verily, I say unto thee, put your trust in that Spirit which leadeth to do good--yea, to do justly, to walk humbly, to judge righteously; and this is my Spirit.
13 Verily, verily, I say unto you, I will impart unto you of my Spirit, which shall enlighten your mind, which shall fill your soul with joy;
14 And then shall ye know, or by this shall you know, all things whatsoever you desire of me, which are pertaining unto things of righteousness, in faith believing in me that you shall receive.
I cannot see how any of these - or anywhere for that matter, says that following the Spirit can turn into "too much of a good thing". In fact, my understanding is that we MUST follow the Spirit in order to actually RECEIVE the First Comforter and receive our C&E. We cannot receive it any other way, except by learning to rely upon the Spirit of the Lord in all things. Then when we receive the Second Comforter, and receive the Savior, even His words must be ratified by the Spirit:
http://www.elliaison.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=10&start=0&rid=35&S=7af868fc153875137051706c8870ef22
When God speaks to us, HIS words must be ratified by the Spirit (we must be persuaded):
http://www.elliaison.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=115&start=0&rid=35&S=7af868fc153875137051706c8870ef22
The Spirit teaches us truth in ALL things, and it cannot lie. So am having a difficult time seeing how you could become a "slave to the Spirit".
~Jules
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