| Article of Faith 11 [message #502] |
Sun, 17 June 2012 12:13  |
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"Article of Faith 11""We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may." - Article of Faith 11
"Joseph Smith""Elder Pelatiah Brown, one of the wisest old heads we have among us, and whom I now see before me, has been preaching concerning the beast which was full of eyes before and behind; and for this he was hauled up for trial before the High Council.
I did not like the old man being called for erring in doctrine. It looks too much like the Methodists, and not like the Latter-day Saints. Methodists have creeds which a man must believe or be asked out of their church. I WANT THE LIBERTY OF THINKING AND BELIEVING AS I PLEASE. IT FEELS GOOD NOT TO BE TRAMMELED. IT DOES NOT PROVE THAT A MAN IS NOT A GOOD MAN BECAUSE HE ERRS IN DOCTRINE." - History of the Church, Vol. 5, p. 340
How does the church maintain this freedom of thought today?
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| Re: Article of Faith 11 [message #2037 is a reply to message #502] |
Sun, 20 January 2013 21:03  |
zephyr
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Seeker wrote on Sun, 17 June 2012 14:13"Article of Faith 11""We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may." - Article of Faith 11
"Joseph Smith""Elder Pelatiah Brown, one of the wisest old heads we have among us, and whom I now see before me, has been preaching concerning the beast which was full of eyes before and behind; and for this he was hauled up for trial before the High Council.
I did not like the old man being called for erring in doctrine. It looks too much like the Methodists, and not like the Latter-day Saints. Methodists have creeds which a man must believe or be asked out of their church. I WANT THE LIBERTY OF THINKING AND BELIEVING AS I PLEASE. IT FEELS GOOD NOT TO BE TRAMMELED. IT DOES NOT PROVE THAT A MAN IS NOT A GOOD MAN BECAUSE HE ERRS IN DOCTRINE." - History of the Church, Vol. 5, p. 340
How does the church maintain this freedom of thought today?
I hear false (IMO) doctrine almost every week and no one is punished for it. From my exposure to leadership positions I have learned that the only time someone gets in trouble is when they have been officially corrected by a bishop or stake president and they continue to teach the false doctrine.
For example, on my mission I encountered a man who was excommunicated for insisting that Christ had a body of flesh and bone before he was born. He wouldn't stop teaching it and was then excommunicated.
On the other hand, I knew someone who rejected all the prophets after Brigham Young, and taught that to his family, but still had a temple recommend until the day of his death. So, it seems what is taught in the home is our business, but if we teach something at church it needs to conform.
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| Re: Article of Faith 11 [message #2108 is a reply to message #502] |
Mon, 28 January 2013 09:18 |
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Awesome, Jules! I love the eighth article on that list.
But of course, I'm wondering. Did someone revise the Wentworth letter or did Joseph just not include the same stuff in it? Or maybe it was a work in progress? And where did these articles of faith come from?
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