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?? Who is "The One" ??

Postby Daryl » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:05 pm
?? Who is "The One" ??
Here is the story of Jesus Christ healing the Ten Lepers:

Luke 17
11 ¶And it came to pass, as he went to Jerusalem, that he passed through the midst of Samaria and Galilee.
12 And as he entered into a certain village, there met him ten men that were lepers, which stood afar off:
13 And they lifted up their voices, and said, Jesus, Master, have mercy on us.
14 And when he saw them, he said unto them, Go shew yourselves unto the priests. And it came to pass, that, as they went, they were cleansed.
15 And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God,
16 And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan.
17 And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine?
18 There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.
19 And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole.

My insight:
When Christ asked where the nine were, Luke responded in narrative form answered for the healed man, "There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger."

Because the man returned glory to the Lord, the Lord gave him a new command which subverted the original command to "shew [himself] unto the priests."

He gave the new command to "Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole."

Christ recognized that this man was returning glory to his God so Christ in turn gave the new command in recognition of this man's faith in the Lord Jesus Christ: "Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole."

Questions:
If you encounter God, is there any need for another man (or in this case priest) to be involved with the particular situation? Is the Lord sufficient for your needs? If the Lord tells you to go thy way, will you take him at his word or second guess by following tradition? What is more important tradition or following the Lord? Is it worth finding out what the Lord's will is in the matter? Is it worth breaking tradition at the risk of [you fill in the blank] to follow the lord? Is the Lord's word more important than the acceptance of our peers, leaders, society, oz?

Perspective:
Remember, this man, The One, had everything to gain (in the world's eyes) by showing himself to the priests - absolution from being an outcast as a leper. It's interesting to me that the scripture does not reveal what this newly healed from leprosy brother did with the new command from the Lord.

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Re: ?? Who is "The One" ?? [message #1696 is a reply to message #1656] Sat, 22 December 2012 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All of those who profess to love G_d were invited to the Marriage and were bidden to come at the appointed time. But when the appointed time came, may chose to do other things that THEY SUPPOSED were more important. And when these worldly things that seemed so important, it is pointed out that those things can wait, they were angry and treated the messengers poorly, even killing them. So the Lord of the Feast said, send other servants out into the streets and compel others to come that His wedding feast might be full.

Who are the Ones who chose not to come? Might they be the same ones who the Messiah said... Blind guides, you refuse to go in thereat or to let anyone else to go in either. Ye shall all fall into the ditch together. These were the leaders or priests of the Church. It happen to Abraham's church, it happen Joshua's church, it happen to Peter's church. Why do the people think it could not happen to Brigham's church?

Who is the One? Read about the Shepard who had one hundred sheep and one was lost. He leaves the ninety nine sheep to go in search of the one lost sheep, and when He found that one lost sheep, He has more joy for that sheep then the whole other ninety nine sheep. Read about the pearl of great price... it was not pearls. When it comes to women, their value is like Rubies or Pearls. Very scarce but still scarcity is given in the plural examples verses a man.

Who is the One? Out of each world the Father only begets "One Only Begotten Son!" From this world, the Messiah will only beget five Sons in worlds to come, excepting in the rare time when one falls as Lucifer did, and then their is only four. The world that has a fallen one like this world where Lucifer was cast down to, is the most evil of all creations or worlds of the Father (the Messiah that only had four heirs). So when you ask why is it getting so evil, and the world never ended yesterday, as the Mayans thought, this imbalance of evil was probably overlook in their calculations. We need more time to bring forth Zion... such a very sad thing. We want to come to the Wedding Feast, just let postpone it, were not dressed nor ready to come yet!


Coming of Eliyah is yet future, the Restoration of Yesrael and the Kingdom or Gospel and the other 2/3's of the Book of Mormon will follow. If Eliyah does not come, then with the coming of the Messiah, the earth shall be cursed and utterly wasted!

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Kingdom of ZION wrote on Sat, 22 December 2012 10:37

Who is the One? Out of each world the Father only begets "One Only Begotten Son!" From this world, the Messiah will only beget five Sons in worlds to come, excepting in the rare time when one falls as Lucifer did, and then their is only four. The world that has a fallen one like this world where Lucifer was cast down to, is the most evil of all creations or worlds of the Father (the Messiah that only had four heirs). So when you ask why is it getting so evil, and the world never ended yesterday, as the Mayans thought, this imbalance of evil was probably overlook in their calculations.


This thought is very intriguing. Can you explain more what you are talking about here?


Re: ?? Who is "The One" ?? [message #1700 is a reply to message #1697] Sat, 22 December 2012 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There was quite a few different thoughts here... I will touch on a few of them.

Every world or creation goes through the same creative periods. When in the Telestial World period, we have billions of 2nd Estate Beings, a few Third Estate Beings, and Millions of Fourth Estate Beings. I will speak about these Fourth Estate Beings:

Of the Men, their are millions of 1st world Fourth Estate Beings.
their is 144,000 2nd world Fourth Estate Beings, and only 5 3rd world Fourth Estate Beings, and this is the numbers found in every 2nd creative period or world.

Those Senior Fourth Estate Beings here are Enoch or Raphael, Noah or Gabriel, Moses or Jerahmeel, Joseph Smith or Ruguel, and Daved Eliyah or Sariel.

Why were the Mayan off on the dawning of an Aquarian age? Who knows... but evil is in control currently of this world, that is not even debatable! The righteous are out numbered almost a 100 to 3. Horrible things will have to come to pass to change that.


Coming of Eliyah is yet future, the Restoration of Yesrael and the Kingdom or Gospel and the other 2/3's of the Book of Mormon will follow. If Eliyah does not come, then with the coming of the Messiah, the earth shall be cursed and utterly wasted!

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Who is the One? Out of each world the Father only begets "One Only Begotten Son!" From this world, the Messiah will only beget five Sons in worlds to come,


Very intriguing. Please share where you got this information.
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Daryl wrote on Mon, 24 December 2012 18:41
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Who is the One? Out of each world the Father only begets "One Only Begotten Son!" From this world, the Messiah will only beget five Sons in worlds to come,


Very intriguing. Please share where you got this information.


I'm sorry but that would be like asking Joseph Smith where he got the Endowment. Did he get is from the Mason ceremonies? Did he get it from the Book of Moses and then the Book of Abraham? Did an Angel come down and reveal it unto him, or was there a grand vision, or revelation give on it and we have no record of such?

He got it by revelation for sure but it was distilled upon him line upon line, a precept here and a precept there, until he knew the truth of it. He did not GET it from somewhere that he could point you too.

I can point you to places in the Scriptures and the Endowment that point to this doctrine. However, it was never taught openly anywhere, and in fact it was not even completely understood by past dispensations, as is clear by the New Testament and Joseph Smith writings. Though, Joseph said he had not revealed but 100th part of that which he had received.

There is no record somewhere in some obscure text that this knowledge can be had. That text has not yet come forth. I can tell you that it is a true doctrine of all eternity, and that if you seek such knowledge, that by your faithfulness, it can be revealed unto you.

I wrote this as a Private Message to Daryl, but then after writing it, I felt by the spirit that I should just post it.

Let me ask you (now those interested) a few questions.

When you reach through the Veil to converse with G_d, do you not feel for marks to know that you are conversing with G_d? How could you become G_d without those markings in the flesh?

The 'New Name' is really ones Old Name, hence it is given first. Then you are given your 'Given Name' or Present Name. Next, you are given a Future Name and not really told it but told what it meant. What does it mean to be called by this name?

When you partake of the Sacrament, you repeatedly covenant to take His flesh (sired by) and blood (birth right) and even His Name upon you. How do you plan to do this?

Can you become an Eternal Father without first becoming an Eternal Son? Can you ascend above all things, without first descending below all things?

If G_d is no respecter of persons, how can the Holy One of Israel pay such a grievous price by blood atonement for His posterity, and you get the SAME reward, without doing the same works?


Now if you can answer me those questions, answer me this one question: The Messiah lived a perfect life and deserved to be the Only Begotten Son of this world... how can you say you deserve the same right now? Were not perfect, we have not overcome the world as commanded, we have not even overcome our own weaknesses!


Coming of Eliyah is yet future, the Restoration of Yesrael and the Kingdom or Gospel and the other 2/3's of the Book of Mormon will follow. If Eliyah does not come, then with the coming of the Messiah, the earth shall be cursed and utterly wasted!

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