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Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E [message #1373 is a reply to message #766]

Fri, 02 November 2012 13:53

Denryu
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I have been praying a lot lately for the Lord to "remove my unbelief". I have been getting a lot of understanding of how in most cases, we progress from feelings (promptings) to words (tongue of angels) to visions to visitations. There is overlap (there has been with myself) and certainly there are exceptions, I think - but this has struck me as a pattern.

A few nights ago I was praying, and I was praying to see beyond the veil. The conversation went something like this:

Me: Please Lord, help me to see past the veil, so that I can know that I have received my C&E...

prompting: What can you see that will "Prove" to you what you have already heard? If you see something thru the veil it is every bit as susceptible to being explained away as imagination as what you have heard.

Me: . . .

prompting: Also, be careful not to seek after a sign. However, if you wish, put forth your hand and part the veil.

Me: ?! (first thought, "isn' that the Lord's to do?" and immediately with it "If the Lord commands, simply obey."

So lying in my bed I extended my right hand, and drew it from left to right as if parting a veil. And I got the impression of "difference" in the area that I had drawn back, yet I saw nothing.

prompting: What good does it do to part the veil, when your eyes are not yet open?

So a few things: I did get a bit of a sense of humor with the last prompting...and again I think I was being told things will be done in the Lord's time and in the Lord's way. In other words, YES! keep seeking further light and knowledge, diligently, but also strive not to ask amiss or for things that will do you no good.

I will say that I have learned a lot in the few days since then. One is, I am finding that if I am praying and having a lot of concern about temporal concerns (I am currently unemployed, but not in hardship yet) but it is getting very difficult to receive any answer or even to get a sense of communication. On the other hand, if I am pondering how to serve, how to further the Kingdom, or similar, heavenly communication seems to be there whether I am actively praying or not (or perhaps a better way to say it is such ponderings are an effective form of praying). It seems that as I ponder all of the C&E experiences that we know about, they occurred when the person stops praying for themself and starts praying for their brethren, or their nation, or even their enemies. So rather than approaching prayer as "I wonder what, if any, spiritual experience I am going to have?" I have actually found that to be a bit of a block (a stumbling one!) but as I have simply tried to understand the Lord's program and my part in it...that's when special, sacred things happen.

Libertas optimas rarem, nunquam servili sub nexu.
"There is no gift like Liberty, therefore never live under slavery."

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		A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Mon, 30 July 2012 07:50
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Mon, 30 July 2012 09:10
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Amonhi on Mon, 30 July 2012 09:36
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Mon, 30 July 2012 09:49
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		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Ashleyd on Wed, 10 October 2012 21:58
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Wed, 17 October 2012 00:58
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Wed, 17 October 2012 01:16
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		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: JulesGP on Wed, 24 October 2012 13:30
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Wed, 24 October 2012 22:37
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Thu, 25 October 2012 00:42
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Thu, 25 October 2012 01:39
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Dragon on Thu, 25 October 2012 06:54
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: zephyr on Thu, 25 October 2012 08:31
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: zephyr on Thu, 25 October 2012 08:50
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Ashleyd on Fri, 26 October 2012 00:45
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Ashleyd on Fri, 26 October 2012 01:03
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: JulesGP on Fri, 26 October 2012 01:52
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Thu, 01 November 2012 13:47
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: JulesGP on Thu, 01 November 2012 14:11
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Ashleyd on Thu, 01 November 2012 15:04
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: JulesGP on Fri, 26 October 2012 02:13
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Fri, 26 October 2012 09:15
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Fri, 26 October 2012 09:20
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Ashleyd on Fri, 26 October 2012 10:08
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: zephyr on Sun, 28 October 2012 13:57
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		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Ashleyd on Sun, 28 October 2012 14:54
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Mon, 29 October 2012 00:05
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: zephyr on Thu, 01 November 2012 22:39
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Dragon on Mon, 30 July 2012 14:05
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Thu, 02 August 2012 09:35
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: JulesGP on Thu, 02 August 2012 12:35
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Dragon on Thu, 02 August 2012 15:57
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: zephyr on Fri, 24 August 2012 06:41
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: Denryu on Fri, 02 November 2012 13:53
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: JulesGP on Fri, 02 November 2012 15:41
		Re: A lifetime of miracles, still waiting for C&E By: zephyr on Fri, 02 November 2012 16:25
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