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Prophecy by Joseph Smith Jr. [message #3493] Thu, 01 October 2015 14:18 Go to previous message
Simon Driscoll is currently offline  Simon Driscoll
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This may not be the right forum for this, but I don't see an area to discuss prophecies received by others.

I am assembling a Compendium of Prophecies to cross reference all the prophecies which talk about the same events because in the process of writing my Warriors & Watchmen series, I have written about prophecies which I know exist, but which I later could not find. So if you know of rare prophecies, by people you believe are prophets, whether in a church or not, I want to hear about it.

Also, during this process, I came across the first part of a prophecy I have been quoting. Here is as much of the prophecy as I currently have on my records:

Quote:
The next day the Prophet (Joseph Smith Jr.) came to our home and stopped in our carpenter shop and stood by the turning lathe. I went and got my map for him.
"Now", he said, "I will show you the travels of this people". He then showed our travels through Iowa, and said, "Here you will make a place for the winter; and here you will travel west until you come to the valley of the Great Salt Lake! You will build cities to the North and to the South, and to the East and to the West; and you will become a great and wealthy people in that land.
But, the United States will not receive you with the laws which God desires you to live, and you will have to go to where the Nephites lost their power.
They worked in the United Order for 166 years, and the Saints have got to become proficient in the laws of God before they can meet the Lord Jesus Christ, or even the city of Enoch". He said we will not travel the shape of the horse shoe for there we will await the action of the government.
Placing his finger on the map, I should think about where Snowflake, Arizona is situated, or it could have been Mexico, he said, "The government will not receive you with the laws that God designed you to live, and those who are desirous to live the laws of God will have to go South.
You will live to see men arise in power in the Church who will seek to put down your friends and the friends of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Many will be hoisted because of their money and the worldly learning which they seem to be in possession of; and many who are the true followers of our Lord and Savior will be cast down because of their poverty.
There will be two great political parties in this country. One will be called the Republican, and the other the Democrat party. These two parties will go to war and out of these two parties will spring another party which will be the Independent American Party.
The United States will spend her strength and means warring in foreign lands until other nations will say, "Let's divide up the lands of the United States", then the people of the U. S. will unite and swear by the blood of their fore-fathers, that the land shall not be divided.
Then the country will go to war, and they will fight until one half of the U. S. army will give up, and the rest will continue to struggle. They will keep on until they are very ragged and discouraged, and almost ready to give up--when the boys from the mountains will rush forth in time to save the American Army from defeat and ruin. And they will say, 'Brethren, we are glad you have come; give us men, henceforth, who can talk with God'. Then you will have friends, but you will save the country when it's liberty hangs by a hair, as it were".


Now, the last half of this prophecy has been quoted by others. But the part I have glazed over before is in bold. When I combine this with the prophecy that there will be secret combinations in our day, and that the goal of these secret combinations is to obtain power within every organization with influence, I am left to conclude there are or will be members of that secret combination in our church at all levels of the LDS Church. I hesitate to discuss this because even bringing forward the question could land people in front of a church court in today's environment. But I need to know what you think of it. Please give me your honest replies. I hope that everyone who does so understands fully the need for anonymity on this site. (Even though I have somewhat cast that aside.)

Simon


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Book 1: Conspiracy Rising
Book 2: Fruits of the Shadow
Book 3: Seeds of Chaos

[Updated on: Thu, 01 October 2015 15:48]

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