| Re: The Fastest Way to Make Your Calling and Election Sure [message #3453 is a reply to message #3452] |
Thu, 25 June 2015 10:36   |
Amonhi
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Registered: June 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV.
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"Original_Intent"I'll let Amonhi clarify, but he did say that the calling of the 144,000 was to bring people to the church of the Firstborn. Which is NOT to say that everyone that has that calling is among the 144,000. We have a bad habit of saying if every A is B, then every B is also A. Non sequitor.
That is a very valid point. Thanks.
"reese"Amonhi, if you were ordained to bring as many as will come to the church of the firstborn, does this make you one of the 144,000?
Yes, for he time being. It isn't as glamours as it sounds. More like serving a mission. Everyone thinks the missionaries are some type of super human, but then you become one and your still a Joe and people curse you and you do your best.
"reese"And does this mean that you were ordained by the hands of an angel?
Yep, but not so much with hands. Hands aren't needed in the spiritual church. It was more like Nephi in Helaman 10.
"reese"When someone does come to the church of the firstborn, is the "ordiance" to do so receiving their C&E? Is there ever a physical ordinance, or is it always 'spiritual' in this church?
C&E is the first ordinance in the church of the firstborn. It is spiritual.
It is possible to receive a physical ordinance which could range from someone giving someone else a blessing or a full on ceremony, but these are still at best signposts and not the actual ordinance.
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