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Necessary for Calling & Election/ 2nd comforter? [message #1236] Wed, 10 October 2012 17:57 Go to previous message
amh
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Hi! I'm so glad to everyone who has shared their stories about recieving their C&E in the other forum area, they are wonderful and help me see it as a possiblity and attainable. .
So I have some questions to those who have experienced it. And want the input and opinions of those who hav not. To my understanding before you are able to have your C&E you have to be tried to see if you will overcome all things. Not necessarily having to experience all things but prove that you will follow God's will no matter what, or sacrifice that which is perfectly catered to you to try you to the fullest. An Abrahamic trial I suppose. Such as Nephi being commanded to kill Laban, Abraham offering up Isaac, Joseph Smith taking on polygamy (I believe) etc. so am I wrong about this? It seems logical to me and scripture seems to qualify the truth that those who are redeemed and saved are first tried. What are your experiences with your Abrahamic trial? If the spirit restrains you I don't need details just if it occurred and did you know it (before, during or just after)? Also what about those who have seen Christ? Or Angels? I always thought that you had to meet an equivalent of darkness before meeting a being of Light? For example- Moses being tempted by Satan before seeing The Lord, Joseph Smith being overtaken by a dark presence where he thought he would be overcome before he saw the Father and The Son, etc. so what are thoughts on this? Did you all experience these things too? Are these thing necessary?

Also- About a broken heart an a contrite spirit.. What is that? Is that necessary to meet Christ? I've heard that to experience Christ's love your heart has to be broken (fully open) and a hard (closed) heart cannot. Do we have to have something break our heart before we can let in what God would have our heart receive? And what is a contrite spirit? Is it simply a spirit that is aligned which the spirit of God? Please let me know ANY opinions/thoughts! Thanks so much!

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