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Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #366] Wed, 23 May 2012 20:03 Go to next message
JulesGP
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I wanted to share an experience I had a couple of years ago with an evil entity. It was during a time when I was more heavily immersed in Gospel study than I had ever been in my life up to that point. I had made some big changes in my life for the better and had let the Lord know that I was willing to make some big sacrifices for him - in order to live the way I felt I was being directed to.

I went to sleep one night and found myself in an old Medieval style church I was unfamiliar with. There were other people there in the building I was mingling with, and my disabled son was there with me too - but was across the room.

A demon in the form of a man started moving toward my son to attack him. I ran to protect him and forced myself between my son and the entity, and ordered the demon to leave him alone and to come after me instead - which he immediately did. He physically attacked me and took hold of me in my dream, and I woke and saw his form over me in my bed. He was holding me down and I was bound physically and I could not speak. In my mind I kept trying to order him away, and physically I fought to get away. He told me that he had been "sent" to try to stop me from doing what I was doing in my life and from taking this path, and he went after my son knowing that I would leave myself more vulnerable to his attack to save him.

I saw a blackness starting to close in - that seemed to be some kind of substance or matter I wasn't familiar with that was actually closing in around me, and I felt like I was being overtaken and would not escape this entity. It was similar to what Joseph Smith described in this account of the First Vision:

"I was seized upon by some power which entirely overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction."

I prayed and did all I could in my mind since I was still bound in every other way, and at some point I was "released". I lay there in my bed feeling physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually exhausted. I was actually surprised that I was apparently doing something "right enough", and that it was important enough to Satan for some reason, that he sent someone to attempt to stop me in that way - so brazenly, and not in the subtle, more crafty ways he uses so often.


~Jules
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #367 is a reply to message #366] Fri, 25 May 2012 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow, very interesting. Thank you for sharing this experience.

~ Seeker
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #372 is a reply to message #366] Fri, 25 May 2012 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This experience happened a couple of years ago. Looking back, can you see the results of those big changes you made? How far have you come since that time?

Can you share any more detail regarding the types of changes and decisions you were making that motivated such a blatant attack?

Is there any advice or encouragement you would give others who might be were you were prior to this experience?
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #407 is a reply to message #372] Mon, 28 May 2012 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really hate these kinds of dreams and its one of the reasons why I get afraid of actually experiencing heavenly messengers because I know that will leave me wide open for the other kinds too and I don't like them. But who does? Your experience is similar to some dreams/encounters I have had with dark entity's while ive slept. I would also be interested in the questions Amonhi posed to you because I bet looking back you can probably get a better sense of why this took place and the choices you were making that threatened the adversary's purposes.
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #421 is a reply to message #372] Tue, 29 May 2012 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Amonhi wrote on Fri, 25 May 2012 13:54
This experience happened a couple of years ago. Looking back, can you see the results of those big changes you made? How far have you come since that time?

Can you share any more detail regarding the types of changes and decisions you were making that motivated such a blatant attack?

Is there any advice or encouragement you would give others who might be were you were prior to this experience?

I have been unusually busy this weekend and sick on top of that... So I'm still trying to catch up on posts and PMs! Confused

Amonhi I can DEFINITELY see the results of the changes I have made - my life is different in EVERY way! During that particular time, I was just going through one of many stepping stones, but I had committed to fiercely studying the Gospel and trying to find answers to questions, and trying to figure out what path the Lord wanted me on. I didn't just study my "allotted" 15 min/day like we're taught to in Sunday School, I got to the point (and am still here....)where I could not get enough! I was frustrated when I had to take time away from my studies to do things like eat, shower, etc... Laughing I had NEVER cared so much for the Gospel and learning in this way in my life before.

I was studying some doctrines at the time, and felt drawn down a particular path, and it was really a weird experience, because I was feeling the spirit so strongly and had the spirit testify of so many truths, but then once I got to a certain point, I was essentially told, "You have gone down this path to learn these things for a reason, but now you need to take that knowledge and go a different direction". So that's what I did, and I've just kept studying, kept praying, and kept searching for truths - trying to put puzzle pieces together, and trying to find the particular path the Lord wants me on, and what I'm supposed to do with all of this knowledge and experience I'm acquiring.

Regarding how far I've come since then.... as I said, I'm a completely different person. I see things in ways I never fathomed before. My goals and priorities are completely different, I'm a better mom (although like Ashleyd mentioned in another post - I still struggle and beat myself up a LOT with that one...). But it's like my primary general overall focus is on the Gospel and learning what I should be doing for the Lord. There have been some very cool experiences along the way that I never would have had before - had I not changed my life focus. Just one small example of a difference in me - I am a HUGE reader. I LOVE LOVE books! I used to have quite a collection of contemporary fiction, romance novels, fantasy novels, etc. I mean hundreds of books I have read. I traded all of them in for credit at a local used bookstore, but 99% of my collection consists of books on the Gospel, the Savior, beliefs other cultures have about the Savior, deep doctrines, other writings like the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Apocrypha, Native American Prophesies, early church history, and of course my herbal and natural remedy manuals Very Happy . But my point is, I still love reading just as much - I FEAST on books, but I've changed what is important for me to read.

I'm not sure what motivated such a blatant attack - I had literally changed my life from black to white in so many ways, and I felt like someone KNEW how committed I was. I've actually had others in the past too. The first one I remember was after the first time I did baptisms for the dead when I was 12. That night there was a bad spirit with me in my room and woke me, and was just "there" with me. Since I wasn't yet used to all this contact with spirits (which I'll talk more about in another thread), it terrified me, and I knew it was there because of the choices I was making at the time to try to follow the Savior in the best ways I knew how.

Wow - advice I would give others who might be where I was prior to this attack?? Shocked Confused Embarrassed I am not sure how to respond to that. But I will say that although I traded some struggles for different ones, it was definitely a trade up! My trials are much different now - well, some of the old ones are still there Sad But my life is a million times better because of these changes, and things are becoming clearer DAILY, and my relationship with my kids is becoming better, and I'm becoming closer to the Lord, and I'm understanding why I went through old trials as new knowledge and understanding is given to me.... I know I'm totally generalizing here, but there is SO MUCH to talk about, I'd probably bore most of you, and never get myself to bed typing about all of it Laughing

I still wonder though WHY it was so important for that entity to attempt to stop me. I think "Why could something I'm doing possibly be important enough to warrant that. There are lots of people out there who are much better than I am, much stronger than I am, and who make much more of an impact than I do or could..." etc.

Well after rattling on and on in this post, it's probably clear to everyone that I only got a bit over 4 hours sleep last night... Laughing

Thanks for listening. I haven't felt comfortable telling many people about this experience, (and many others I've had), that I'm feeling comfortable that I can begin sharing here!

And thank you again Amonhi for bringing me here!


~Jules
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #458 is a reply to message #421] Wed, 06 June 2012 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JulesGP wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 00:10
I still wonder though WHY it was so important for that entity to attempt to stop me. I think "Why could something I'm doing possibly be important enough to warrant that. There are lots of people out there who are much better than I am, much stronger than I am, and who make much more of an impact than I do or could..." etc.

Well, Joseph asked a simple question. What church is true? Why Would the adversary make a big deal about that? It isn't the little events and steps along the way that are the problem for him. It is the changes in direction and the great outcome of the small and simple things.

By small and simple means are great things accomplished. Your new direction led you to new heights. Now your here. Who knows what growth you will experience next and what greater things you will accomplish! It could be hard for a 14 year old boy to understand why he would be attached as he was for asking in prayer a simple and humble request for information. But, after 200+ years we can look back at what that simple event led to a see how many lives he touched and influenced. Who knows what your efforts will have done in 200 years!!!


~ Seeker
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #826 is a reply to message #458] Sun, 05 August 2012 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's obvious to me that Jules was making a major change and this was a last ditch effort to quash it. I agree with Seeker that small and simple things grow into amazing things. If only one soul is saved by your winning this battle [your own], isn't that a very great happening? If your children and others around you and in your circle [like this forum] are positively effected, this is even greater. I believe you and your ultimate potential is very well known by both sides of the hidden world. I'm grateful that you are on the side of righteousness.

Bishop
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #829 is a reply to message #826] Sun, 05 August 2012 23:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you Bishop and Seeker Smile. I've recently seen a lot of things come into a different perspective - including this event, and I think I understand a bit better now.

I'm grateful I have your examples and experiences and testimonies to learn from!


~Jules
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #832 is a reply to message #829] Mon, 06 August 2012 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now that you've received some great advice on why this may have happened, I would like to add a few notes on the how. You indicated the demon went after your son specifically to make you more vulnerable. The way you opened yourself up was to 'invite' him to attack you instead. If you had instead cast him out right there, you may not have been attacked so vigorously, or even at all. Since this was not your only experience with demons, it is useful to know how to keep them from you in the first place. A home dedicated to the Lord, and free of influences which invite demons in, is protected from such spirits. Sadly, there are many influences which give demons a foothold in our house. They include but are not limited to the following:
Pornography, Drugs, Alcohol, A heart filled with anger, Active hatred of any person or group, etc.

You get the idea. What some do not realize is that anyone in the home can destroy the barrier of a dedicated home, even if that person is only a guest. We do not need to take the cleansing of our homes to the level they did under the law of Moses, but I would say after an event like this, we should rededicate our homes and redouble our efforts to discover how the demon got in, and make the corrections in our lives required to keep our homes as sacred as a temple.

I grew up in a home wide open to such demons, and they had a distinct affect on me, which I am still working to shed. But I am finally in a home where most of the time the demons have no way to enter. I cannot express how much it means to me to live in a protected space. I spent far too many years living in a house which did not feel safe. Now I do. I wish I could share those secrets with everyone, but sadly very few would make use of them.


- Dragon
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #1998 is a reply to message #832] Wed, 16 January 2013 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dragon wrote on Mon, 06 August 2012 05:18
. . . [I]t is useful to know how to keep them from you in the first place. A home dedicated to the Lord, and free of influences which invite demons in, is protected from such spirits. Sadly, there are many influences which give demons a foothold in our house. They include but are not limited to the following:
Pornography, Drugs, Alcohol, A heart filled with anger, Active hatred of any person or group, etc.

You get the idea. What some do not realize is that anyone in the home can destroy the barrier of a dedicated home, even if that person is only a guest. We do not need to take the cleansing of our homes to the level they did under the law of Moses, but I would say after an event like this, we should rededicate our homes and redouble our efforts to discover how the demon got in, and make the corrections in our lives required to keep our homes as sacred as a temple.


Dragon - I really appreciate the message you give here. I read something else by you with the same message, and seeing it again here touched me even more.

Recently we had a visit from our gay son and his 'husband'. We love our son and think the world of his partner. In every sense they are both decent, kind, generous, thoughtful people. But our son has entrenched himself in the gay lifestyle in ways that he doesn't want us to really know about, and we are happy not knowing. His partner often shows an interest in the LDS church. While at our home he picked up a Book of Mormon and immediately became immersed in reading it. We can see that our son senses the potential danger of his partner gaining interest in the Gospel and our son intervenes or interrupts his partner's attention to these matters.

Before they came to visit, we knew our LDS faith and standards were threatening to our son and his lifestyle, and we didn't want him mocking or ridiculing anything we held sacred. So we swapped out photos of temples, prophets, church documents, paintings of Christ, etc. with other items that would not draw negative comments. Also, before they arrived, we had a special prayer and basically rededicated our home and set up a shield against negative influences our son might bring with him and his partner. At the time I was not so conscientious about doing it as you have pointed out in your posts, but I was on the right track. In the future, I will be more specific and descriptive about such things.

Ryan


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Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #2002 is a reply to message #366] Wed, 16 January 2013 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for everyone's comments on this. I had some amazing learning experiences that stemmed from this attack I posted about - and it led to me receiving my C&E. I also had understandings given to me by the spirit that this attack was not just to try to stop ME from the path I was taking, but to stop OTHERS (some of whom were named) from the influence I would have on them and the blessings they would ultimately receive by their righteous choices.

I've learned since this post how to cast out demons and evil spirits and not allow them around me personally. I have not however, learned yet how to prevent Satan from attacking my family and me via others who surround themselves with him and his evils. For example, my ex-husband has immersed himself in a lifestyle that is evil and corrupt and he feeds off of those things. I can call upon angels to surround my son and protect him to a degree when he has to have visitation with his father, but I can't take my ex-husband's agency away and prevent him from surrounding himself by evil and enjoying the things he does to hurt my son and I - that Satan tells him to do. How can I cast Satan out and prevent him from hurting my family through my ex-husband - who at this point, pretty much worships Satan?


~Jules
Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #2566 is a reply to message #2002] Tue, 11 June 2013 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Savior has commanded us that we are to "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect" Remember in Doug's book the general authority (can't think of his name right now ) had the experience of casting out the possessed missionary? He loved him. He wrapped his arms around that missionary and loved him. Light and darkness cannot occupy the same space at the same time. Wasn't it Alma the elders beseeching to Our Father that led the angel to his wayward son which changed the course of the eternities for many generations of Lamanites? i think we underestimate our capacities and The Lord is strriving to bring our attention to it, what we can action for good. Honestly seek to love him and your light will chase that darkness out of him. It may not be easy or immediate, but it is an immutable, eternal principle that our righteous efforts will bless the lives of our loved ones.

"And seek the face of the Lord always, that in patience ye may possess your souls, and ye shall have eternal life."
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Re: Demons Attempting To Thwart Righteousness [message #2569 is a reply to message #2566] Fri, 14 June 2013 23:01 Go to previous message
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Kaai wrote on Tue, 11 June 2013 11:40
Remember in Doug's book the general authority (can't think of his name right now ) had the experience of casting out the possessed missionary? He loved him. He wrapped his arms around that missionary and loved him.


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